Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Update Policy, Regulation, and Longevity

  • Multiple comments confirm 7 years of OS and security updates for Pixel 9 series (and 8 series), aligning with upcoming EU rules requiring ~5+ years of updates after end-of-sale.
  • Some see this as genuine progress; others note Apple/Google largely did it because EU regulation forces their hand.
  • Several people keep older Pixels (4a, 5, 6a) and extend life via LineageOS, GrapheneOS, or other ROMs; concern remains about security once official support ends.

AI, Gemini, and “AI Phone” Positioning

  • Many are turned off by heavy “AI” marketing and don’t want an “AI phone,” seeing it as hype and investor-pleasing rather than user-driven.
  • Gemini Advanced is widely criticized as confusing, weak, and overly restrictive compared to other LLMs; some say they only use it because it’s bundled with Google One.
  • Others report Gemini and on-device features (call screening, “Hold for Me,” photo tools, audio cleanup) as genuinely useful.
  • Confusion about which AI runs on-device vs cloud; some praise huge context windows, others report failures or refusals on real tasks.

Hardware, Cameras, and Design

  • Mixed reaction to the new design: many dislike the revised camera bulge and rounded-square (“Bender-like”) look; others shrug that all phones now look similar.
  • Some praise the “Pro specs in smaller size” move and the existence of a Pro XL, but there’s strong ongoing demand for truly small phones with good hardware.
  • Many lament loss of rear fingerprint sensors and headphone jacks; under-display readers and glass backs are often criticized.
  • Debate over camera progress: telephoto and large sensors are valued, but some feel camera bumps and 42MP front cameras are overkill.

Performance, Tensor, and Reliability

  • Tensor chips are viewed as behind Snapdragon/Apple in raw performance and efficiency; some report overheating, poor battery, or modem issues on prior Pixels.
  • Others say recent Pixels (esp. 8/8a) are very stable and “just work”; conflict between positive and negative anecdotes is noted.
  • Several see Pixels as poorly QA’d “beta devices,” citing bugs after updates (Bluetooth, calls, 911 issues historically), while others report flawless long-term use.

Privacy, Ecosystem, and Alternatives

  • Pixels are simultaneously seen as “most privacy-invasive Android” (Google) and “best base for privacy” (GrapheneOS, CalyxOS).
  • Some refuse any Google hardware due to product shutdowns and subscription dark patterns; others buy Pixels because they’re the only devices supported by GrapheneOS.
  • Desire for Linux phones (PinePhone, Librem 5) or simpler, non-AI-focused devices surfaces, but most acknowledge app/ecosystem lock-in.

Pricing and Value

  • Many experience sticker shock at ~$1,000+ pricing and see the Pixel 8a or older flagships as far better value.
  • Trade‑in and carrier deals can make upgrades cheap or nearly free, but critics note this is often offset by expensive postpaid plans.
  • General sentiment: smartphones have plateaued; for many, there’s little reason to upgrade if an older phone still works and gets security updates.