The Naming of America (2023)
Dating and Nature of the Essay
- Commenters try to pin down when the essay was written:
- Early versions appeared in 1988 and 1991; Google Scholar lists 1988.
- The author’s publication list ties a very similar essay to a 2023 magazine piece.
- Internal references go up to 2001 and to a 2016 dictionary edition, suggesting incremental updates over decades.
- Consensus: it functions like an encyclopedia entry, originating in the late ’80s/early ’90s but later revised.
“America” as Country vs. Continent
- Major thread on how different cultures use “America”:
- In much of Latin America, “America” is a single continent; calling only US citizens “Americans” is seen by some as exclusionary.
- In Anglophone countries, “North” and “South America” are distinct; “the Americas” is the continental collective, and “America” is the US.
- Some argue it’s simply the country’s name; others see a “main character” attitude from the US.
- Alternative demonyms:
- “USian” is proposed and occasionally used online.
- Spanish “estadounidense” (“Unitedstatian”) is cited as a precise term, but noted as awkward in English.
Demonyms, Identity Labels, and “Hyphenated Americans”
- Debate over terms like Latino/Hispanic, African-American, Native American vs. Indian:
- Several comments stress that many of these labels were chosen or preferred by the communities themselves, not imposed.
- Others counter that some shifts (e.g., “African-American”) were elite or outsider-driven and never fully embraced.
- Polls are cited within the thread that many Black people prefer “Black,” and that pan-ethnic labels are often tools for bureaucrats.
- Some claim hyphenated labels are used to seek special treatment; others reject this as cynical and inaccurate.
Comparative Naming Disputes
- Analogies to other places:
- UK vs. England vs. Britain; Netherlands vs. Holland; differing exonyms like Londres/London.
- Used to argue that divergent naming conventions across languages are normal and not inherently offensive.
America Vespucci Story
- Commenters dig up 19th‑century sources:
- She petitioned the US Congress for a land grant as a Vespucci descendant; the Senate declined on legal/precedent grounds.
- Politicians and elites then raised private funds for her to buy land; one account says she refused the money because it wasn’t a “national gift” and returned to Europe.
Alternative Discovery Theories and Rigor
- Some critique the essay’s rigor in etymological sections and its mention of a speculative “black African discovery” of America:
- Phrases like “it has been argued” are seen by some as weaselly if evidence is weak.
- Others defend mentioning fringe theories as context, noting the essay explicitly warns that many origin stories are speculative and agenda-driven.
- Polynesian contact with the Americas is noted as more plausible and supported than African-contact claims.