Ghost jobs are wreaking havoc on tech workers
Prevalence and Forms of Ghost Jobs
- Many describe fake or “already filled” roles as common: listings used to collect resumes, test the market, satisfy HR/legal process, or signal growth to investors.
- Government, large enterprises, and H‑1B/PERM immigration processes are called out for mandated postings when an internal/visa candidate is effectively preselected.
- Some managers allegedly post speculative roles (“if a unicorn appears, we’ll hire”) or to gauge how replaceable current staff are.
Impact on Candidates and Employers
- Candidates report spending hours on applications, tests, and video interviews only to be ghosted or later told the role is frozen or never real.
- Several note emotional harm and wasted “precious capital” (time, money, childcare tradeoffs) vs. employers mostly wasting on‑the‑clock time.
- A few small‑company hiring managers push back, saying they too are overloaded with spammy, unqualified applications; they see the burden as symmetrical.
Platforms, Job Search Strategy, and Networking
- Mixed views on LinkedIn/Indeed: some say they’re spammy and recommend going direct to company career pages or ATS URLs; others report multiple good jobs via LinkedIn, especially from inbound recruiters.
- Strong sentiment that networking and prior connections are far more effective than cold applications, though some report success primarily from job boards.
- One subthread unpacks “networking” as long‑term relationship‑building vs short‑term schmoozing; many find it opaque or socially biased.
HN “Who’s Hiring” Thread
- Users believe ghost jobs and repeat boilerplate ads exist there too.
- Moderator introduces a new rule: only post if you intend to fill the role and will respond to all applicants; discussion centers on how (or whether) this can be enforced.
- Ideas: auto‑detect repeated identical ads, link to previous month’s listing, allow flags or meta‑feedback, or build more structured tooling around the thread.
Legal and Regulatory Questions
- Some argue ghost postings are deceptive and should fall under FTC or state false‑advertising or securities‑fraud doctrines; others highlight enforcement difficulty and side‑effects of existing “fairness” regulations that already drive some fake postings.
- Unionization and worker co‑ops are mentioned as political/structural responses, but how they would directly stop ghost jobs is seen as unclear.
Proposed Fixes and New Services
- Suggestions include: required salary ranges, mandated responses or feedback to candidates, and explicit disclosure of speculative or “pipeline” roles.
- One founder‑type proposes a paid job board that vets employers and bans ghost listings; others question monetizing jobseekers and the classic “dating site” incentive problem.