Apple Resumes Advertising on X
Meta: Why Threads Keep Getting Flagged
- Multiple comments note that earlier HN threads about Apple returning to X were flagged/removed, leading to frustration and suspicion that “people don’t want this news to spread.”
- Others respond that this is consistent with HN guidelines: political or flamey topics tend to be flagged because they produce low-substance, high-indignation arguments.
- Some agree this is appropriate curation; others argue this topic isn’t “politics” per se and should be allowed as tech/business news.
- There is acknowledgement that political topics online often degrade quickly, even on HN, making moderation risk-averse.
Is This Political or Just Business?
- One camp: big companies have no real ideology beyond profit; Apple paused ads when it was politically risky and resumed when it became either profitable or politically safer under the new administration.
- Another camp: Apple’s move is explicitly political, aligning with a platform whose owner now holds political power; some suggest it’s as much like lobbying as advertising.
- Some argue that not advertising on X could now be politically dangerous, given perceived government alignment with Musk.
- Several comments stress that customers’ political views shape corporate behavior: firms must at least appear to match their most valuable customers’ ideology.
Free Speech, “Cancel Culture,” and Corporate Choices
- Debates over whether leaving/returning to X is an exercise of free association or “cancel culture.”
- One proposal suggests laws against ending business relationships for political reasons; others argue this would be unconstitutional compelled speech and hard to define (“who decides what reasons are legitimate?”).
- Broader clash between “anything goes, just close the browser if you don’t like it” and the view that platforms and hosts shouldn’t tolerate bigotry or hate.
Views on X as a Platform and Business
- Some defend X as having valuable technical/ML discussion and not remotely comparable to truly extremist sites; critics are framed as not using it or misdirecting other frustrations.
- Others point to Musk’s controversial and antisemitic posts as evidence that association with X is inherently political and reputationally risky.
- On valuation: one side cites revenue/EBITDA figures and investor comments claiming X may have held or even increased value; another points to large markdowns (e.g., Fidelity) and conflicting revenue numbers as evidence that its success is unclear.