Crew-9 Returns to Earth
Status of the Astronauts & Mission Logistics
- Multiple commenters stress the crew was never physically “trapped”: there were always enough docked vehicles (Dragon, Soyuz) to evacuate the ISS in an emergency.
- NASA had, by August 2024, formally decided the Starliner crew would stay until early 2025 and return on a pre‑planned Dragon (Crew‑9), once another Dragon (Crew‑10) arrived to keep the station staffed.
- To meet “lifeboat” requirements with the extra people, NASA certified a special Dragon configuration where additional crew could be strapped into the cargo area during an emergency.
“Stranded” vs “Rescheduled”
- One camp insists “stranded” is misleading because a safe return path via Dragon existed from September onward; the delay was an operational and budget choice, not a high‑stakes rescue.
- Others argue that when your planned return vehicle is unusable and your 8‑day trip becomes 9 months, “stranded” is a fair colloquial description, even if contingency options exist.
- Much of the arguing is about semantics: “stranded” as “no way home” vs “no normal way home without major replanning or extra launches.”
Politics and Competing Narratives
- A major portion of the thread attacks or defends claims by political figures and a major contractor CEO that the prior administration “left” or “forgot” the astronauts for political reasons.
- Several links and timelines are cited to show the long‑planned February/March 2025 return, suggesting those claims are false or opportunistic.
- Others remain skeptical of NASA’s nonpolitical framing, pointing to the agency’s history of political pressure and pork‑driven programs, and note there’s no public visibility into any White House–NASA conversations.
- The dispute broadens into arguments about government waste, a new federal “efficiency” initiative, and whether criticism of that initiative is itself partisan.
Boeing Starliner & ISS Policy
- Starliner’s repeated technical issues, including new errors on its uncrewed return, are heavily criticized; some say Boeing has “forgotten” how to build reliable spacecraft and aircraft.
- Starliner’s problems forced unusual crew rotation juggling, including a Russian cosmonaut commanding an American spacecraft and ad‑hoc escape seating.
- The ISS itself is debated: some call it obsolete “dead‑end” tech with limited science return and serious long‑term health impacts, noting its planned retirement and deorbit contract; others defend crewed stations as part of broader exploration goals.
Astronaut Experience & Health
- Some commenters romanticize the extension as the “best possible” outcome for career astronauts who rarely get to fly and likely won’t fly again.
- Others emphasize the psychological and medical toll of an unplanned 9‑month stay: family separation, rehab, bone and vision changes, and the fact that astronauts may be publicly upbeat but privately ambivalent.
- There’s back‑and‑forth over whether “they signed up for this” is an adequate ethical justification.
SpaceX, NASA, and Attribution of Credit
- SpaceX is widely praised for Dragon’s reliability and for stepping in where Starliner failed; some call it the only currently safe US crew vehicle.
- Several participants push back on personality‑centric narratives, arguing credit belongs primarily to engineers and mission teams rather than any single executive.
- Others note that without earlier entrepreneurial risk and sustained focus, Dragon and Falcon might not exist, though they separate that from current political behavior.
Media, Language, and Culture
- A space reporter’s articles dissecting the “stranded” political claims draw both praise (for fact‑driven rebuttal) and criticism (for partisan tone and snarky subheads).
- Commenters complain about weaponized wording—“stranded,” “rescue,” “throne of lies,” “Gulf of America”—and how such language shapes public perception.
- The thread also includes humor and cultural riffs: Gilligan’s Island–style parody lyrics of the mission, “Plan 9 from Outer Space” jokes about “Crew‑9 from Outer Space,” and admiration for dramatic drone splashdown footage with parachutes and dolphins.