Vacheron Constantin breaks the world record for most complicated wristwatch
Price, extravagance, and Veblen goods
- No official price was given; commenters relay rumors around multi‑million dollars, with some suggesting ~$4M.
- Many frame it as a pure Veblen good: primarily about signaling wealth, taste, and insider status rather than utility.
- Others argue that for this tier, target buyers are obsessive “watch nerds,” with status and nerdery often overlapping.
“Most complicated” and watch jargon
- Long subthread on “complication”: in watchmaking it means “additional function beyond basic timekeeping,” not chaos.
- Debate over whether headlines using “most complicated” are innocent technical language or deliberate fancy marketing.
- Broader criticism of terms like “movement,” “calibre,” “bespoke” as elitist branding vs. defense that they’re historical, domain‑specific jargon.
Utility vs. accuracy: mechanical vs. quartz/smart
- Several note that cheap quartz or smartwatches beat this watch in accuracy and practical features by huge margins.
- Others stress the engineering feat: achieving good mechanical chronometry from springs and gears is still impressive, even if quartz does better.
- Detailed side-discussion on marine chronometers, environmental effects, and quartz accuracy in real‑world vs lab conditions.
Art, craftsmanship, and longevity
- Pro‑mechanical voices emphasize longevity (200‑year horizons), reparability, and the object as future museum‑grade art.
- Skeptics counter that high service costs, fashion cycles, and ordinary mechanical limits undermine the “timeless” narrative.
- Comparison to other luxury artifacts (grandfather clocks, Geochron wall maps, cars, paintings) used both to praise and dismiss.
Smartwatches changing behavior
- Multiple anecdotes: people with expensive mechanical/jewelry watches switched to Apple/Garmin for reminders, payments, fitness, and never looked back.
- Others had the opposite arc: abandoned smartwatches as stressful notification machines and returned to simple mechanical or Casio pieces.
Economics of Swiss luxury brands
- Discussion of huge margins, consolidation into groups (e.g., Richemont, Swatch), and use of scarcity + targeted marketing.
- Comparisons across tiers: Chinese homages, Japanese midrange, Swiss independents, and ultra‑high‑end brands (including Richard Mille) illustrate how reputation drives price.
Complexity as an art form
- Many are awed by fitting 41 mechanical complications in a wearable case; others liken it to concept cars: technical showcases, not practical tools.
- Commenters draw parallels to software “features,” sizecoding, origami limits, and even dreams of mechanical Bluetooth or wrist‑scale Turing machines.
Resources and spin‑offs
- The thread surfaces multiple educational links on how mechanical watches work, independent watchmakers, and a site that simulates complications in SVG, reflecting broad technical curiosity beyond luxury marketing.