Starship's Tenth Flight Test
Emotional reactions & inspiration
- Many describe the launch as “unbelievable” and deeply moving, especially watching with young children who ask big questions about Earth, space, and other planets.
- Several see events like this as catalysts for lifelong interest in science, ethics, and technology.
Parenthood, meaning, and life choices
- Long subthread on the joy and meaning of having children: everyday milestones, seeing oneself reflected in kids, and experiencing a complete shift in priorities “before vs after children.”
- Strong counterpoint from people who chose not to have children, emphasizing freedom, travel, and no regrets; argue this path is equally valid.
- Ethical debate about having kids “given the state of the world”:
- One side views procreation now as irresponsible or even harmful.
- Others argue we live in historically good times, humans generally prefer existence, and not having kids at scale risks societal decline.
- Some note that parents understand both lifestyles, while non-parents only know one; others reject the notion that parents have special moral insight.
Starlink v3 and Starship economics
- Starship is expected to launch heavier, higher-bandwidth Starlink v3 satellites (~2 tons each), with one Starship launch equaling the capacity of ~20 Falcon 9 launches.
- Economics:
- Starlink already generates revenue, but high-cadence Starship launches with many v3 sats are seen as key to fully exploiting Starship and justifying its cost.
- Aspirational launch cost figures (<$1000/kg) are discussed as transformative, though possibly overhyped.
Flight performance, anomalies, and testing goals
- Consensus that the flight was a major success: full mission profile, payload deployment, controlled reentry, and splashdown near the target buoy.
- Water landing and post-landing explosion were expected; the vehicle was not intended to survive ocean contact.
- One booster engine failed on ascent and another was intentionally shut down later, demonstrating redundancy.
- A lower-area failure (possibly COPV or vent-related) visibly damaged the skirt and a rear flap early; despite this, the flap survived reentry better than some previous flights.
- Tiles were purposely removed in areas to study what happens when protection fails, yielding data on burn-through behavior.
Heat shield tiles and reusability vs production
- Goal: minimal tile replacement between flights; tests focus on mounting methods, where tiles are truly needed, and gap/attachment design.
- Comparisons to the Shuttle:
- Shuttle tiles were technically reusable but fragile, uniquely shaped, and required exhaustive post-flight inspection and repair on an aluminum airframe.
- Starship’s stainless structure tolerates more heat, tile types are more standardized, and individual tile replacement is already much faster.
- Debate on feasibility:
- Some expect Starship will still need tile inspections and replacements but can reach 24‑hour turnaround, which would be a huge improvement.
- Others note progress is ongoing, including experiments with actively cooled tiles and dealing with tile waterproofing issues.
- Discussion on strategy: rapid reusability vs mass production isn’t seen as contradictory; high-volume, partially reusable fleets are needed for ambitions like Mars and orbital refueling.
Video coverage, perception, and streaming
- People are impressed by continuous onboard video to splashdown and SpaceX’s willingness to show failures and damage.
- Some lament that even such visceral evidence won’t convince flat‑earth or moon‑landing deniers, who can now dismiss everything as “AI generated.”
- Technical tips exchanged on how to stream X/Twitter launches to Apple TV and alternatives like YouTube and VLC.
Miscellaneous topics
- Suggestions for nurturing kids’ interest in space: Kerbal Space Program, beginner telescopes, stargazing trips, and classic sci‑fi like Star Trek (with debate over the current state of the franchise).
- Complaints and jokes about SpaceX’s use of “Gulf of America” instead of “Gulf of Mexico.”
- First‑hand reports that Starbase is unusually open and accessible, with public roads very close to the factory and pad, and speculation that in a few years Starship launches may feel as routine as Falcon 9.