Wind turbine blade transportation challenges
Scale, Diagrams, and Blade Size Limits
- Commenters appreciated simple ASCII “kvikk diagrams” comparing 747s vs 100+ m blades and jokingly tried to coin “Kvikk” as a term for such diagrams.
- Some note that 70 m isn’t a hard onshore limit; there are examples of ~80 m blades moved by truck or rail, suggesting the article oversimplifies current constraints.
Exotic Transport Concepts
- Many playful proposals: using turbine blades as airplane wings, building a giant helicopter out of blades, tip-mounted propellers or rockets, or multi-helicopter sling loads.
- Pushback focused on physics and aerodynamics: twisted/asymmetric blades, need for opposite-rotation pairs, lift vs tip-speed and subsonic constraints, and poor helicopter efficiency over long distances.
- LLM-based “back of the envelope” calculations were discussed; some saw the lift issue as straightforward physics, others argued lift is scalable with RPM until tip-speed limits are hit.
Airships, VTOL, and Ballast Problems
- Several asked why not airships. The cited reasons: slow, weather-sensitive, need for large hangars, helium scarcity, and difficulty landing in high winds (especially at windy wind farms).
- Thread explored technical fixes: securing with tethers, loading ballast water, compressing helium instead of venting (but with large energy and tank requirements), and unmanned hydrogen options.
- Skepticism remained about handling 60–75 tons of buoyancy shift efficiently.
On-Site / Segmented Blade Manufacturing
- Suggestions: mobile “container factories,” onsite 3D printing, or segmented blades assembled in the field.
- The article’s quoted experts argue joints are structurally weak and too heavy, and that 3D printing would require full-scale factories at every farm.
- Others cite research indicating segmentation might still be cost-effective for very large or hard-to-access sites, so the “never” claim is seen as premature.
Economics, Siting, and Lifecycle
- Some worry designing a plane around ~100 m blades is shortsighted if cost declines keep favoring even longer blades.
- Energy-payback estimates suggest the extra fuel for flying blades is tiny relative to a turbine’s multi-decade energy output.
- Discussion of siting: onshore turbines in farm fields vs near housing; fields could double as temporary dirt strips, but questions arise about long-term maintenance, tree growth, and how replacement blades will arrive in 2050.
- A few view the whole approach as a “Cargolifter”-style mega-project, with doubts about delivering the world’s largest airframe in five years by a new company.