The Mac app flea market
App stores, particularly Apple’s Mac and iOS stores, are criticized for being flooded with scammy or low‑quality copycat apps that mimic popular products like ChatGPT, while genuine tools are hard to find. Commenters argue this undermines Apple’s claim that its tightly controlled “walled garden” and 30% commission ensure safety and quality, especially when legitimate developers face arbitrary rejections yet shovelware passes review. Comparisons to Steam, traditional desktop downloads, and web search highlight how better curation, ranking, and reputation systems could improve trust and discoverability.
Keyword/Typo Squatting and Clones Everywhere
- Commenters note pervasive keyword and typo squatting across Apple, Microsoft, and Google stores, not just for “AI Chat” but any popular app.
- Example: searching the Microsoft Store for WinDirStat returns many dubious clones; the real project lives on GitHub/the web and isn’t in the store.
- Users are increasingly “trained” to trust app stores over the web, so legitimate sites and repos are never found. A common workaround mentioned: append “github” to search queries.
GitHub vs App Stores for Normal Users
- Some find GitHub-based distribution confusing: source archives alongside binaries, no obvious “download here” button.
- Others argue that official download pages are simple enough and that alternative install instructions (winget, scoop) are optional.
- The deeper issue: non-technical users will look in the store first, where clones dominate.
Copycats, Trademarks, and Store Inaction
- Developers with niche but popular apps report floods of copycats now appearing ahead of them in search, with Apple doing nothing despite reports.
- Trademark registration (federal vs cheaper state-level) is discussed as a potential lever to get platforms to act, though effectiveness is unclear.
Review Process: Strict but Ineffective
- Widely reported pattern: legitimate apps receive arbitrary or opaque rejections and long delays, while low-effort or scammy clones slide through.
- Several explanations are floated: extreme skew toward low-quality submissions, quota-driven reviewers, possible bribery, and incentives aligned with revenue (IAP-heavy “casino” apps).
- Many argue the system simultaneously delivers too many false positives (blocking good apps) and false negatives (letting in shovelware), undermining Apple/Google’s justification for their 30% cut.
Walled Gardens, Control, and Discoverability
- One framing: app stores act as collective bargaining agents for users; they get criticized whenever they fail to protect quality or exclude good apps.
- Others counter that most visible complaints come from developers, implying platforms are serving users “well enough.”
- Strong skepticism that Apple would allow alternative front-ends or curated indices precisely because discoverability is a key point of control and revenue.
Curation, Ranking, and Better Models
- Many see the Mac App Store as a “failed” or embarrassing marketplace: low trust, little serious software, dominated by clones. iOS is viewed as only marginally better.
- Steam, Linux distro repos, and (to some extent) SetApp are cited as superior curation models: better ranking, reputation, and stronger incentives for quality.
- Suggested mitigations: reputation signals (“by OpenAI” vs unknown), better search and filtering (e.g., CarPlay support), Hamming-distance constraints on app names, and stricter enforcement against near-duplicates.
Security Narrative and the Web Comparison
- Commenters argue the “walled garden = safety” story is overstated: fraudulent password managers, ChatGPT lookalikes, and subscription scams routinely pass review.
- The open web often surfaces the genuine products first, while official stores prominently feature clones and paid placements.
- Some conclude that real safety comes more from sandboxing and permissions than from store gatekeeping, and call for sideloading and third-party stores on mobile.
Shovelware as a Structural Outcome
- Several see current conditions (AI tools, low dev cost, “get into AI at any cost” hype) as inevitably driving massive amounts of low-quality apps.
- That, combined with weak curation, turns both mobile and desktop app stores into “flea markets” where finding trustworthy software is increasingly difficult.