SpaceX disables 2,500 Starlink terminals allegedly used by Asian scam centers
Context and ambiguity of Starlink shutdown
- OP notes the article glosses over Myanmar’s civil war: the junta blames opposition-linked groups for scam centers, while those groups deny it.
- Some argue disabling 2,500 terminals inevitably benefits one side militarily/politically, but who benefits is unclear.
- Others counter that, regardless of factions, large-scale, well-documented scam compounds are a clear enough target.
Nature and severity of the scam centers
- Multiple commenters stress these are not “normal” call centers: reports describe kidnapping, trafficking, imprisonment, torture, and forced scamming (“modern slavery”).
- Compounds like KK Park and Shwe Kokko are said to be run largely by Chinese/Taiwanese crime groups, with trafficked workers from many countries.
- View: this is “black and white”—any action reducing their capability is good, even if both junta and militias are otherwise abusive.
Sovereignty, law, and corporate duty
- One camp: if you operate in a country (or beam services into it), you should obey its laws; if the government is illegitimate or genocidal, don’t do business there at all.
- Opposing view: companies are not morally bound to follow laws of genocidal or authoritarian regimes; they should resist being tools of “jackbooted thugs.”
- Others emphasize consistency: if Starlink respects Brazil’s courts or Israel’s rules, it can’t arbitrarily ignore Myanmar without consequences.
Genocide, resistance, and “terrorism” labels
- Debate over whether resistance groups operating scams (if true) are “terrorists,” “freedom fighters,” or just another set of bad actors.
- Some argue you either refuse to support genocidal regimes everywhere or you’re inconsistent; others note international actors already maintain embassies and follow local law while pressuring for change.
- Strong disagreement over when breaking unjust laws is morally necessary versus dangerously ad hoc.
Free communication vs shutting down abuse
- One side: communication access is akin to a human right; denying it (especially in a civil war) is dangerously political and may hurt journalists, civilians, or resistance.
- The other: telecoms routinely cut off terrorism and severe crime; there are worse things than “internet censorship,” like torture and organ harvesting.
US power, Musk, and geopolitical influence
- Some see Starlink as a tool of US soft power/DoD influence, pointing to military contracts and earlier Ukraine involvement.
- Others call this “tinfoil hat” thinking, arguing Starlink exists mainly as a commercial service, though they concede government pressure and sanctions clearly matter.
Technical and operational details
- Starlink is officially not licensed in Myanmar or Thailand; terminals are smuggled in and geo-located via GPS.
- SpaceX claims to have proactively disabled far more terminals (2,500) than were physically seized (~80), likely based on location clustering around scam compounds.
- Concerns: how does Starlink distinguish scam terminals from, say, nearby journalists or bystanders; collateral disconnections seem likely.
Meta: evaluation of HN’s reaction
- Some commenters are frustrated that discussion fixates on sovereignty, Musk, or abstract legalities instead of the extreme human-rights abuses at the compounds.
- Others criticize knee-jerk anti-Musk comments, or note that the same crowd recently attacked Starlink for not complying with national laws elsewhere, highlighting inconsistency and polarization in tech discourse.