Framework Laptop 13 gets ARM processor with 12 cores via upgrade kit

Original Article ↗ Hacker News Discussion ↗

Product variants and unclear specs

  • Thread clarifies that this is a 3rd‑party mainboard for the Framework 13 using a CIX CP8180 SoC (8×A720 + 4×M520), not Snapdragon X.
  • “Standard” appears to be the board in a mini‑PC/Cooler Master–style case; “Pro” likely adds a full Framework 13 chassis. This is inferred from photos and price, not clearly stated.
  • Listing is criticized as confusing: unclear whether storage is soldered or replaceable, how many USB‑C/expansion ports actually work, and what OSes are supported.

Vendor trust and marketing

  • Several commenters are wary of MetaComputing: sparse “about” information, “Web3” branding, aggressive pricing vs Framework’s own configurations, and missing technical details.
  • Some would be interested otherwise but are hesitant to send money given this opacity.

Performance and power efficiency

  • SoC is reported to idle around 16 W, which multiple people call a dealbreaker for a laptop and far worse than current Intel and Apple silicon. Some speculate it might be a measurement or firmware issue, but it’s unclear.
  • Performance is described as significantly below Apple M1 and only modestly ahead of chips like RK3588; some say a used M1/M2 with Asahi Linux is a better ARM‑Linux laptop option.

ARM Linux and OS support

  • Concerns that there’s no explicit Linux or Windows support story: no device‑tree submissions mentioned, unclear NPU and GPU driver status, and no distro guidance.
  • Related discussion covers: mixed experiences with ARM ThinkPads, Tuxedo abandoning Snapdragon efforts, and Valve’s work (FEX, Steam “Frame”) as a potential catalyst for ARM desktop viability.
  • Asahi Linux on Apple silicon is debated: some report it as their best Linux laptop experience; others note missing features (video out, proper sleep, some peripherals).

Validation of Framework’s ecosystem

  • Many see this as proof the Framework form factor is working: independent vendors now target it (ARM board, RISC‑V board from another company).
  • Even if this specific product is weak, people are excited about a modular “Jeep of laptops” and open CAD designs that could sustain 3rd‑party parts even if Framework disappeared.

Keyboards and ergonomics

  • Side thread laments that even Framework doesn’t offer high‑quality, non‑chiclet, ergonomic or split keyboards despite modularity.
  • Some argue low‑volume, niche designs are better done by hobbyists or small shops rather than Framework itself.