Kuwaiti F/A-18's Triple Friendly Fire Shootdown Gets Stranger by the Day

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Overall reactions

  • Many find the triple friendly-fire shootdown astonishing and darkly humorous, with “ace via friendly fire” jokes.
  • Several call it “extraordinary” and emphasize how rare it is to lose three modern fighters this way, prompting suspicion something deeper went wrong.

Identification, IFF, and jamming theories

  • Debate over how a Kuwaiti F/A‑18 pilot misidentified U.S. F‑15Es:
    • Some note F‑15Es can resemble MiG‑29s from certain angles but others argue Kuwaiti pilots train extensively with U.S./regional F‑15s, so unfamiliarity is implausible.
    • One line of thought: pilot saw the jets from behind at distance and thought they were hostile F‑14s.
  • Technical discussion:
    • IFF can warn but does not physically prevent firing. It’s unclear whether IFF/Link 16 was on, misconfigured, or malfunctioning.
    • One theory posits Iranian jamming or GPS spoofing affecting IFF/Link 16; others consider this highly unlikely, arguing maintenance errors or systems simply being off are more plausible.
    • Disagreement over power levels and jamming feasibility; also over conflation of IFF, Link 16, and GPS.

Pilot intent: error vs malice

  • Some suggest repeated mis-ID (three shots, one reportedly within visual range) points to possible rogue action.
  • Others strongly reject this, arguing:
    • Repeating the same mistaken pattern under stress is common.
    • The incident is better explained by incompetence, poor situational awareness, or bad ground control than deliberate betrayal.
  • A rumor appears about an IFF synchronization issue, which would make inbound aircraft appear non-cooperative during a high-threat, drone-heavy scenario.

Gulf militaries, training, and nepotism

  • Multiple comments attribute the event to systemic issues in Gulf militaries: nepotism, politically connected “hobbyist” pilots, and difficulty washing out underperformers.
  • Counterpoints:
    • U.S. and allied forces have long exercised jointly with Kuwait, implying decent exposure and coordination.
    • Some push back on sweeping generalizations about “these countries,” noting differences between Gulf states and the role of sect, regime type, and history.

Use of “old” F‑15Es

  • Several defend F‑15Es as heavily upgraded, well-maintained, and still highly capable, similar to modernized B‑52s.
  • Consensus in-thread: they are not obsolete; they remain a core, versatile platform despite their legacy airframe.