France pulls last gold held in US
How the €13–15B “gain” works
- Many commenters argue no real economic wealth was created; France has roughly the same 2,437 tonnes of gold before and after.
- The “gain” is framed as an accounting effect: realizing long‑term capital gains on gold bought decades ago at very low prices and long held at historical cost on the books.
- Selling the old bars crystallizes the difference between historic purchase price and current market price; repurchasing resets the cost basis to today’s value.
- Several note it’s mathematically impossible to earn ~€13–15B purely from short‑term price moves on 129 tonnes, since that’s close to their entire market value.
- Debate over mark‑to‑market vs historical‑cost accounting and “realized” vs “unrealized” gains; central banks often use historical cost for gold.
What actually happened with the gold
- France sold about 129 tonnes of “non‑standard” bars held in New York and bought equivalent, LBMA‑standard bullion in Europe, now stored in Paris.
- Motivations cited:
- Upgrading purity/format to modern, easily tradable standards.
- Avoiding the cost and complexity of physically transporting and recasting bars.
- Completing a long‑running standardization program (started around 2005).
- Some speculate about timing gains or arbitrage, but the consensus is that the big number is mostly the long‑term price appreciation finally realized.
Political and geopolitical dimensions
- Official statements say the move is “not political”; many commenters doubt this, seeing it as sovereignty and risk management.
- Concerns include: US instability, sanctions/frozen assets, and future leaders potentially blocking access to foreign‑held reserves.
- Discussion about whether Germany, the Netherlands, and others should also repatriate gold to reduce dependence on the US.
- Historical context: De Gaulle’s 1960s policy of swapping dollars for gold and repatriating it, contributing to strains on the Bretton Woods system.
Broader economic and meta discussion
- Long subthreads debate gold vs fiat, inflation vs deflation, and the merits and failures of the gold standard and Bretton Woods.
- Some call the headline misleading: this is primarily an accounting/logistics story, not France “making” €15B by clever trading.
- Side topics: eurozone stagnation vs US/China growth, terminology (“tons” vs “tonnes”), and light humor about French gold and language.