Show HN: Tolaria – Open-source macOS app to manage Markdown knowledge bases
Overall reception
- Many commenters find the app attractive, well-designed, and conceptually strong (Markdown + local files + git + relationships).
- Several intend to try it, especially users coming from Obsidian/Logseq/Bear who like the UI and git-backed approach.
- A few are immediately turned off by the “AI-first” positioning or the web technology stack.
Positioning vs existing tools
- Frequent comparisons to Obsidian, Logseq, Notion, Bear, OneNote, VSCode, and Zettlr.
- Distinguishing factors repeatedly cited:
- Open source.
- Git as first-class sync/versioning.
- Focus on types, relationships, and structure over simple note editing.
- AI agents as first-class consumers/producers of vault content.
- Some argue Obsidian “already does this,” while others highlight that Obsidian is not open source and has different UX/assumptions.
Native vs webwrapper debate
- Strong divide:
- Some reject Tauri/Electron-style apps outright, insisting on “true” native macOS (AppKit/SwiftUI).
- Others say Tauri is fast enough and are more interested in features and openness than implementation language.
- Multiple native alternatives (e.g., mdnb, Typora, others) are suggested for those prioritizing Mac nativeness.
AI- and git-centric design
- Discussion around AI agents editing the vault:
- Ideas like treating AI as a git contributor, surfacing its activity in history, and even real-time presence indicators.
- Git as a durable, auditable layer is widely praised; some note existing workflows where LLMs operate over git repos.
Performance, UX, and bugs
- Claims of handling ~10k notes are attractive; one commenter asks about indexing vs lazy-loading (unclear from thread).
- Reports of:
- Sorting bugs after git commits.
- Minor editor friction (keybindings, code fences behavior, large-file performance).
- Others praise essentials like paste-from-clipboard images.
Mobile capture and ecosystem
- Many stress that lack of good mobile capture/search often kills tools as daily drivers.
- Workarounds shared: Drafts + git, Telegram bots + GitHub, iOS quick-note apps piping into Markdown vaults.
- Several request a mobile version; the creator mentions plans and current use of a Telegram-based integration.
Open source, longevity, and ecosystem
- Some skepticism about single-maintainer projects’ lifespan; others push back, arguing that open source + plain files mitigates risk.
- Multiple commenters urge finding a sustainable monetization path while staying open source.
- Thread becomes a hub for related “agent memory” and Markdown knowledge-base projects; collaboration interest is expressed.