SecurityBaseline.eu

A new project, SecurityBaseline.eu, is scanning tens of thousands of European government websites and email domains, reporting issues such as illegal tracking cookies, exposed database interfaces, and weak email encryption. Commenters welcome the transparency and compare national e‑government maturity, but question aspects of the scoring, such as marking lack of DNSSEC or consent-banner violations as “high risk” and potentially misclassifying non-government sites. The conversation broadens into how GDPR is interpreted in practice, the difficulty of meaningful enforcement, and the legal and cultural barriers to independent security testing in countries like Germany.

Project launch & scope

  • New initiative “SecurityBaseline” monitors ~67k government entities and ~200k sites across Europe.
  • Headline findings: thousands of government sites set tracking cookies without consent, many public database interfaces, and widespread weak email encryption.
  • Some suggest reposting as a “Show HN” and adjusting messaging to be less sensationalist.

Data accuracy & classification issues

  • Misattribution example: municipal sites hosted on sites.google.com led to incorrectly attributing google.com to those governments; maintainers say this has been corrected.
  • Some country-level lists (e.g., Hungary, Dublin region) appear to mix non‑government sites or miss key regions, raising questions about how “government” domains are identified.
  • Dataset sources include zone files and owner info; FOI requests are mentioned as possible but slow.

Severity, metrics, and presentation

  • Several argue the site overstates risk (e.g., coloring regions red) for issues like missing DNSSEC, ROA, or basic tracking cookies on informational sites.
  • Others counter that even “small” sites often hold personal data (e.g., form submissions), so hardening is justified.
  • Criticism that focusing on cookie banners and DNSSEC can distract from more impactful risks, such as outsourcing email to large foreign providers.

DNSSEC debate

  • Some see lack of DNSSEC as serious and defend highlighting it.
  • Others assert DNSSEC is often harmful, prone to self‑DoS, and should not be incentivized; recent outages are cited.

GDPR, cookies, and consent

  • Discussion that GDPR itself is not cookie‑focused, but public and some tools overemphasize cookie consent.
  • Mixed views on enforcement: some see Germany as strict on GDPR, others point to blatant violations (e.g., “pay with privacy” walls).
  • Annoyance with consent banners is common; browser extensions are suggested as mitigations.

Security culture & legal environment

  • Comments note that in places like Germany, pentesting without explicit authorization is legally risky, discouraging independent research.
  • Some describe institutional defensiveness and fear of blame; others mention official disclosure channels (e.g., national CERT/BSI forms) as a workable route.

Miscellaneous

  • Reports of the site being down due to traffic.
  • Minor complaints about HTML language tags, number formatting (comma vs period), and UI compared to underlying tools.