We accepted surveillance as default

Online surveillance is portrayed as the default state of today’s web, driven largely by advertising economics, permissive browser standards, and user apathy or resignation. Commenters debate whether regulations like GDPR and Apple’s App Tracking Transparency meaningfully curb tracking, or merely shift it into darker patterns while big platforms and data brokers continue to amass power. Underneath is a broader worry that commercial tracking infrastructure can easily be repurposed for state surveillance and social control, yet viable, user-friendly alternatives and sustained political will remain elusive.

Site design and distractions

  • Many readers found the blog’s animated cursor and embedded Space Invaders–style game so distracting they barely read the article.
  • Some enjoyed it as “delightful” or fun; others argued it undermined any serious message about surveillance and attention.

Browser architecture and standards

  • One thread claims current web standards bodies push tight coupling of document rendering and JavaScript, making it harder to disable JS/tracking without breaking sites.
  • Proposed remedies: a hard fork of major browsers, grassroots standards favoring partial template rendering and no-JS protocols (e.g., Gemini); some suggest public funding by states or cities.

Tracking, surveillance, and regulation

  • Several comments emphasize GDPR is a broad data-protection law; cookie banners are mostly “malicious compliance,” not required by the text of the law.
  • Others think the law’s implementation is flawed because it allowed “clicking gymnastics” rather than enforcing one‑click opt‑outs.
  • There is disagreement over whether tracking automatically constitutes “surveillance”; some insist intention and usage matter, others argue the same data can trivially be repurposed for surveillance and even lethal targeting.

Apple, Google, and mobile privacy

  • App Tracking Transparency (ATT) is praised as a simple, effective user control, but others stress it only blocks cross‑app identifiers, not tracking itself.
  • DNS-based blockers show many apps still phone home despite ATT.
  • Debate over trusting Apple: some say Apple is relatively trustworthy; others cite telemetry, weak defaults (unencrypted backups), and fines as reasons for skepticism.
  • View that both Apple and Google profit from ads and are not true allies of user privacy.

Economics of the ad-driven web

  • Broad agreement that ad-funded models drive surveillance, but disagreement on whether the web “needs” to make money.
  • Some argue personal sites can and should be run at a loss; others insist commercial use and income are inevitable and legitimate.
  • Concern that even paid services still surveil because it’s an additional revenue stream.

Public attitudes and responsibility

  • Many report “nothing to hide” apathy among non-technical people; others believe this stems from poor understanding, not true indifference.
  • Suggestions include teaching “digital hygiene” in schools and technologists taking more professional responsibility rather than blaming users.

Effectiveness and harms of targeted ads

  • Several users report terrible targeting: scammy or irrelevant ads, retargeting for already-purchased items, wrong languages and locations.
  • Some take this as evidence that ad profiling is overrated; others respond that poor individual targeting doesn’t prove the overall system is ineffective or harmless.
  • Concerns extend beyond commerce to political manipulation, dynamic pricing, and discriminatory treatment based on profiles.

State surveillance and civil liberties

  • Some commenters consider government surveillance inevitable and see the real issue as legal limits, warrant standards, and secret courts.
  • Others question whether mass data collection has actually prevented crime or terrorism, citing “needle in a haystack” concerns and lack of demonstrated benefit.

Debate over framing and historical comparisons

  • One camp sees comparisons to Stasi-level surveillance as exaggerated “snowflake” rhetoric, noting different motives and harms.
  • Another group counters that once a repressive regime exists, commercial surveillance infrastructure will be repurposed; they point to contemporary authoritarian states as examples.
  • Overall tension between viewing today’s ad-tech complex as merely annoying vs. as a prebuilt tool for future oppression.