Giant trees have no trouble pumping water to top branches: new research
Mechanism of Water Transport (Pumping vs Sucking)
- Several comments stress that trees do not “pump” water like a mechanical pump; they mainly “draw” it via low pressure at the top.
- The cohesion–tension model and capillary action are repeatedly cited: evaporation in leaves creates tension, pulling a continuous water column up xylem vessels.
- It’s noted that xylem is dead tissue, with no active pumps or valves, contradicting ideas of “pumps in series.”
- Some push back on oversimplified popular explanations, reminding that a simple suction column in open air cannot lift water beyond ~10 m; capillaries and negative pressure change that picture.
- There is mention of trees operating at several bars of negative pressure and the challenge of avoiding cavitation.
Height Limits and Gravity
- Skeptics argue the new research conflicts with earlier work showing strong limits on maximum height (~130 m) from water transport and gravity.
- Others suggest water transport might not be the sole limiting factor; mechanical strength of wood and other constraints are also invoked.
- Speculative ideas appear: different evolutionary pressures (e.g., megafauna damaging saplings, human activity, nutrient depletion) might explain why trees are not taller today; these are presented as conjecture, not established fact.
Alternative Water Sources and Adaptations
- Fog capture in coastal redwoods and possible mutualism with moss (holding moisture on branches) are discussed as ways to supplement water, especially at height.
- Leaves and moss absorbing water directly from rain or fog is seen as a way to bypass long-distance transport for some needs.
- Desert and evergreen adaptations (e.g., reduced transpiration, CAM photosynthesis) are mentioned as strategies to manage water loss.
Structured / Exclusion-Zone Water Debate
- One line of discussion introduces “structured water” or exclusion-zone (EZ) water as a possible contributor to sap flow driven by radiant energy.
- Others respond cautiously, noting that while interfacial water phenomena are real, specific EZ claims are contested and subject to critical reviews.
Attitudes Toward the Research and Plant Science
- Some dismiss the paper as confirming the obvious (big trees clearly get water to their tops), but acknowledge that incremental, non-controversial work is common.
- Multiple commenters express strong interest in botany, plant physiology, and computational/technical approaches to agriculture, framing plant biology as a major frontier.