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The staff ate it later

Title pun and lighthearted thread drift

  • Many comments play on the double meaning of “staff” (TV crew vs. magic staff), spawning Bible jokes about staffs/serpents, cars (“in one Accord”), tablets/iPads, and other tech and vehicle puns.
  • Some expected a literal “staff swallowed staff” story or a tech-bureaucracy metaphor (“staff ate all the good ideas”) before realizing it was just a wordplay-based title.

Religious texts, origins, and “truth”

  • Several posts connect Old Testament stories (serpent, flood, eternal life, image of God) to earlier Mesopotamian and Egyptian myths (Hammurabi, Gilgamesh, Atrahasis).
  • One subthread contrasts “metaphorical/pragmatic truth” (beliefs that help societies thrive) with “factual/journalistic truth,” debating which matters more when they diverge.
  • Others caution that cultural memes spread not only because they’re useful but also because they’re simple or psychologically “sticky.”

Jesus, Magi, and historicity

  • Discussion on early depictions of Jesus with a “magic wand,” and the Magi as “magicians” vs. Zoroastrian priests.
  • Long digression on Jesus’ likely appearance (Levantine, not the stereotypical white European depiction) and how “European” and “white” have been historically and politically fluid categories.
  • Separate subthread explores how ancient Greeks viewed Magi as rational, astronomy-informed leaders, and how ancient people did distinguish philosophy, religion, and magic, albeit differently from today.

Flood stories and historic claims

  • One commenter argues Noah’s ark account is more historically reliable than Mesopotamian flood myths because it is simpler, monotheistic, more “ethical,” and specifies a seaworthy ark shape.
  • Others strongly dispute the moral framing (mass drowning as “ethical”) and question the claim of historical fidelity, seeing flood tales primarily as theological displays of divine power.

Food waste, mottainai, and cultural attitudes

  • Many focus on Japanese mottainai (regret over waste), connecting it to the on-screen assurance that “the staff ate it later.”
  • Comparisons with Western norms: some see similar anti-waste upbringing (WWII/Depression generations, “finish your plate”), others see the US as unusually tolerant of visible waste.
  • Plastic over-packaging in Japan is criticized; some defend it on hygiene and mold-prevention grounds, noting the actual amount of plastic per item can be small.

Translation nuance and localization

  • Multiple bilingual commenters discuss 美味しくいただきました: literally “we gratefully/ deliciously received (and ate) it,” with politeness baked in.
  • Debate over best English rendering: “the staff ate it later” is literal but flat; “the staff enjoyed it later” better captures the politeness/pleasantness but risks implying broader uses of “enjoy” than Japanese allows.
  • Consensus: Japanese → English often forces a tradeoff between naturalness and verbatim accuracy; here the stock phrase functions more like a ritual reassurance than a factual gustatory review.

Japanese TV disclaimers and “infantilization”

  • One long comment frames “the staff ate it later” as part of a wider trend: Japanese TV plastering everything with disclaimers (“one hypothesis,” “filmed with permission,” timestamping appearances by scandal-tainted people).
  • This is attributed to hypersensitivity to viewer complaints and a “customer is always right” culture, which some feel has dumbed TV down and accelerated youth flight from the medium.

Western parallels and production realities

  • Western shows increasingly add “no food was wasted” or “crew ate this” lines (e.g., Taskmaster, YouTube, GBBO). Some find these reassurances comforting; others see them as somewhat performative given overall production waste.
  • Behind-the-scenes notes: on film sets, actors often don’t really eat (continuity, multiple takes, timing, food safety). Crew commonly eat leftovers in many productions and restaurants, though policies vary widely.

Food waste vs. overconsumption and ethics

  • A subthread argues that overeating surplus calories is itself a form of waste comparable to binning food; others reject this equivalence.
  • Broader moral discussion on animal welfare: contrast between people’s empathy for individual visible animals (pigeons, birds, movie animals) and tolerance of industrial-scale livestock suffering.
  • Explanations proposed include psychological distance from production, cultural norms, evolutionary empathy mechanisms, and differing views on whether human “dominion” justifies current meat practices.

Americans Lose Faith That Hard Work Leads to Economic Gains, WSJ-NORC Poll Finds

Hard work, luck, and “value”

  • Many argue hard work alone has never guaranteed economic gains; what matters is doing work that is economically valued and being positioned to capture some of that value.
  • Examples: roofers, EMTs, teachers, farm workers work harder and provide more social value than many office workers, but earn far less.
  • Several point to luck, background, timing, and access to capital as major determinants of outcomes; “hard work” mostly improves odds in a rigged lottery.

Housing, inflation, and living standards

  • Housing costs are repeatedly described as the “knife in the side” of the economy: even decent wages are consumed by rent/mortgages.
  • Anecdotes compare mid‑20th‑century workers buying homes on modest incomes vs today’s six‑figure professionals struggling to afford small condos in safe areas.
  • Inflation debates split: some blame stimulus and money printing, others emphasize supply shocks, corporate pricing, and that real wage gains at the bottom were brief and politically unpopular.

Education, STEM, and the broken career ladder

  • Commenters see highly credentialed Gen Zs (APs, good universities, STEM degrees) failing to get jobs, even begging for unpaid “experience.”
  • Older workers recall eras when entry‑level tech training was employer‑funded; now firms prefer offshore labor, visas, or pre‑trained candidates.
  • Advice to “be a problem‑solver for hire” is criticized as out‑of‑touch because that path is now saturated too; credentials no longer guarantee stability.

Inequality, capital, and taxation

  • Broad sense that wealth and income have shifted from labor to capital: real estate, equities, financial engineering, and “rent seeking” dominate gains.
  • Strong criticism of lower tax rates and loopholes for capital gains and ultra‑wealthy vs W‑2 labor; others counter that risk and inflation justify differential treatment.
  • Some call for extreme measures: wealth caps, forced “retirement” of billionaires from power, higher top tax rates, or even criminal liability for “social murder” by executives.

Poll, mood, and legitimacy of the “American Dream”

  • Several dig into the poll PDF and note that attitudes about the American Dream haven’t moved much in three years, but unemployment definition and sample (many non‑workers living in owned homes) complicate interpretation.
  • Despite methodological quibbles, many describe a visible “vibe”: wealth inequality is palpable, middle‑class security has eroded, and belief that “if you work hard you’ll get ahead” is no longer credible for large parts of the population.

You don't want to hire "the best engineers"

Junior vs “Best” Engineers in Startups

  • Many argue early-stage startups need a core of experienced engineers to avoid basic security/complexity “footguns,” but can add juniors once that base exists.
  • Others cite successful companies built with one strong CTO plus a bench of juniors, stressing that “super engineers” aren’t required—just people who have already made early-career mistakes elsewhere.
  • Several note you usually need different profiles over time: zero-to-one “ship fast” engineers early, then reliability/scale-focused people after product–market fit.

What “Best Engineer” Really Means

  • Commenters reject a universal “best”: effectiveness depends on context (greenfield vs legacy, tiny startup vs FAANG, heavy collaboration vs solo deep work).
  • Skills like communication, coordination, system design, and consistent ticket execution often matter more than raw coding brilliance.
  • Many warn that “we only hire the best / A-players / rockstars” often signals a toxic, overcompetitive, or prestige-obsessed culture.

Hiring Constraints, Compensation, and Equity

  • Consensus that most startups cannot realistically attract the top 1% who have networks, options, and leverage; they expect high comp, flexibility, and real influence.
  • Equity is now heavily discounted by candidates; many value it at a small fraction of face value or ignore it entirely due to dilution and bad exit experiences.
  • Several point out that if a role is unfilled for 6+ months, it’s usually a “you problem” (comp, requirements, or work environment), not a talent shortage.

Process, Pipelines, and Where Great Hires Come From

  • Strong engineers are often hired through networks and prior collaborators, not generic job ads or seven-round interview gauntlets.
  • Pedigree filters (elite schools, FAANG, trendy stacks) miss “moneyball” candidates with high potential but non-obvious resumes.
  • Junior teams frequently fail at assessing senior candidates, leading to endless churn and unfilled roles.

Engineering vs Business Priorities

  • Multiple threads stress that early startups are primarily business endeavors: survival may justify tech debt and “good enough” CRUD over ideal architectures.
  • Others share horror stories where unmanaged tech debt later becomes an existential drag, arguing experienced engineers should right-size architecture to the business stage.
  • Underneath the “best engineer” rhetoric, most companies really need reliable, learning-oriented people who align with the product, culture, and chosen work mode (remote vs in-office).

The Little Book of Linear Algebra

Format, tooling, and distribution

  • Readers praise the compact, point-form style and clean LaTeX source; some say the .tex is almost readable as text.
  • The EPUB uses HTML + MathML generated via Pandoc, which several people find notably clean and modern.
  • GitHub’s LaTeX rendering works well up to a point, then fails with “[Unable to render expression]”, leading to speculation about an internal limit and prompting some to switch to the EPUB.
  • A few users report issues: PDF not opening, and a typo in the GitHub org name (“litte”).
  • Suggestions include adding a pointer to the repo inside the book itself.

Target level and suitability as a resource

  • Many see it as a great refresher or compact reference rather than a full teaching text.
  • Several criticize “beginner-friendly” claims: set-theoretic notation appears immediately, symbols are not always introduced, and some concepts (eigenspaces, normal equations) are mentioned without proper definition or derivation.
  • Others argue there is no universally beginner-friendly level; if basic set notation is unfamiliar, a reader may need more preliminary material.
  • There’s appreciation that it’s CC-licensed and free, but some feel that lack of proofs, illustrations, and motivation limits its use as a first exposure.

Teaching linear algebra: motivation and difficulty

  • Strong debate over whether linear algebra basics are inherently boring or just badly taught.
  • One camp says you must “power through” the mechanics (vectors, matrices, Gaussian elimination) before the interesting parts (eigenvalues, SVD, applications) become visible.
  • Others insist matrix multiplication and linear transformations can be motivated early via composition of linear maps, geometry, or graphics (rotations, reflections), though examples like translation spark technical corrections (not linear in Euclidean space).
  • Multiple commenters stress geometric and visual intuition, advocating graphics programming, 2D/3D examples, and tools like Processing or GeoGebra.
  • There’s recurring criticism of how schools over-emphasize algorithmic calculus while under-teaching vectors, matrices, probability, and statistics.

Alternative resources and broader ecosystem

  • Numerous recommendations surface: more visual/interactive notes, standard and “no-bullshit” textbooks, geometry-focused intros, Axler-style “matrices later” approaches, and OCW/YouTube courses.
  • 3Blue1Brown’s linear algebra series is repeatedly highlighted as making concepts “click”.
  • Some note that AI/LLMs are now effective helpers for decoding unfamiliar notation from PDFs or screenshots.
  • The author mentions a similar “little book” on calculus and an in-progress broader series on math and CS.

Passkeys and Modern Authentication

Exportability, Specs, and User Freedom

  • Strong disagreement over specs forbidding plaintext export of private keys and mandating complex HPKE-based export flows.
  • One side: export in cleartext is obviously insecure; at minimum exports should be passphrase‑encrypted, and non‑exportable keys (e.g., YubiKeys) are a feature.
  • Other side: the protocol should not dictate the user’s security model; blocking even encrypted export removes user choice, complicates archival, migration, and handling of deceased users’ accounts, and creates de‑facto lock‑in.
  • Concern that “temporary minimums” (allowing encrypted exports now) may disappear later as standards tighten.

Lock‑in, Attestation, and Power Asymmetry

  • Fear that attestation plus RP choice will let sites whitelist only big-tech or “approved” managers, excluding open-source tools; KeePassXC’s Github thread is cited as a warning signal.
  • Some argue this is analogous to sites rejecting weak passwords or requiring corporate MFA apps; services already choose what they deem secure.
  • Others see this as constructing technical chokepoints that governments and corporations can later weaponize for real‑identity requirements and platform lock‑in.

Security Benefits vs. Phishing and TOTP

  • Security practitioners in the thread are broadly positive on passkeys: they remove passwords, are phishing‑resistant, and close common holes (TOTP phishing, reused passwords, credential stuffing).
  • Passkeys are seen as weaker than “password + hardware key” but stronger than password+TOTP or email codes; TOTP is described as obsolete for high‑stakes use because phishing it is easy in practice.
  • Critics counter that data breaches and provider screw‑ups are larger real‑world risks than phishing, and that exportable secrets (passwords, TOTP seeds) remain more user‑controllable.

UX, Recovery, and Family Use

  • Many report serious UX pain: multi‑step AWS logins, confusing flows, unclear “where the passkey lives,” and broken experiences across devices and kids’ phones.
  • Non‑exportable keys make migration between managers (hundreds of sites) or off ecosystems (Apple, Google) daunting; backup stories (lost devices, SMS‑only recovery, Authy desktop deprecation) drive skepticism.
  • Some propose mitigating via multiple passkeys per account, hardware keys, and family‑oriented SSO‑like dashboards, but note these don’t really exist for consumers yet.

Alternatives and Comparisons (SSH, X.509, SSO)

  • A camp argues SSH‑style public‑key auth “solved” login with far less complexity; passkeys add attestation, RP IDs, and privacy logic largely to handle web tracking and phishing.
  • Others respond that SSH’s fingerprint / TOFU model fails for most users, and WebAuthn’s binding to the relying party is a genuine improvement.

Imgur's community was in revolt

Perceived Long-Term Decline of Imgur

  • Several commenters say “years-long degradation” started well before the 2021 acquisition.
  • Early red flags: redirecting direct image links to ad-heavy pages, gimmicky overlays (e.g., swipe prompts), and later TikTok-style videos under the requested image.
  • Deletion of large swaths of old content (e.g., retroactive nudity bans) is seen as breaking an implicit “trusted host” contract.

Reddit Parallels and Why External Image Hosts Existed

  • Imgur originally filled Reddit’s gap: fast, free hosting when Reddit was mostly text and external links.
  • Reasons Reddit didn’t host images early:
    • Storage and bandwidth were much more expensive; Reddit was small, underfunded, and busy just staying online.
    • Hosting images brings added legal risk and moderation burden, especially for NSFW and borderline content.
  • Earlier hosts like ImageShack and Photobucket became slow, ad-infested, paywalled, or deleted popular images, prompting the creation and rapid adoption of Imgur.

Porn, Liability, and Moderation Culture

  • Multiple anecdotes describe early Reddit as awash in porn and minimally moderated, with “anything legal” (or close to it) tolerated.
  • People recall creepy or borderline subreddits (jailbait-style, creep shots, bestiality, white supremacist spaces, Gamergate organizing).
  • Many argue this made first-party image hosting a legal and reputational nightmare.
  • There’s an extended philosophical debate:
    • One side emphasizes free speech = legality.
    • The other stresses platforms’ right not to host disturbing but legal content, and notes “hardcore free speech” platforms tend to become unusable for most people.

Imgur as Utility vs. Community

  • Some are surprised Imgur has a “thriving community” at all; they only ever used it as plumbing for Reddit/forums.
  • Others insist the on-site community has existed for over a decade, often unaware of (or indifferent to) its role as Reddit’s image backend.
  • Reports of a hostile, insular culture: welcoming if you fit in, aggressive and incurious if you don’t.
  • Confusing privacy/public defaults led to “accidental” public posts from people who thought they were just uploading to embed elsewhere.

The Revolt, AI Moderation, and Outcome

  • The immediate trigger: new owners fired human moderators and replaced them with “AI moderation.”
  • Protest tactics evolved: middle-finger images, mass TOS-violating porn, solid-black “blackout” posts, and oversized images/videos to strain infrastructure.
  • By the time of discussion, visible protest largely subsided; front page looked normal to some, though others still noticed unusually racy content and oversized files.
  • One view: like Reddit’s API revolt, it won’t change management but will push some users off the platform or to Lemmy/other sites; another notes the revolt briefly made Imgur better by crowding out political spam.

Economics, Enshittification, and Alternatives

  • Broad agreement that “nothing is free”: once investor money runs low, platforms must monetize, often via ads, engagement tricks, or policy changes that alienate users.
  • Imgur’s trajectory is framed as a standard “enshittification” arc: beloved simple tool → VC-funded growth → pressure to extract more value → community backlash.
  • Some argue Imgur’s meme-heavy community is almost impossible to monetize well, making drastic moves inevitable.
  • Alternatives mentioned:
    • catbox.moe: intentionally simple host, community-funded; supporters pitch in monthly, but others warn that such funding is fragile (e.g., Patreon issues) and that overexposure could overload it.
    • s3nd.pics and similar minimalist hosts trying to recreate “old Imgur” with fewer ads/algorithms.

Wider Web Annoyances

  • Side discussion about intrusive email gates and modals on the article’s site;
    • The publisher claims this is partly to combat AI scraping and support journalism.
    • Commenters doubt the technical effectiveness and compare modals to the old popup-ad problem, now largely unsolved at browser level.

Take something you don’t like and try to like it

Taste, Judgment, and Snobbery

  • Some argue you shouldn’t try to like everything; “cultivating taste” means being able to tell good from bad and disliking much of what you encounter.
  • Others counter that “taste” often becomes class signaling or snob Calvinball; it’s fine to like “trash” as long as you can recognize it as such.
  • Several note taste changes over time; rediscovering things you once hated (or cringing at old favorites) is common.

Acquired Taste and Changing Preferences

  • Many examples of learned liking: tomatoes, spinach, natto, salted licorice, gin and tonic, wine, cilantro, opera, anime, jazz, rap.
  • Repeated exposure and context (travel, culture, peers, stories about the thing) often shift aversion into enjoyment or at least tolerance.
  • Others report genuine sensory or allergy-like issues (tomatoes, seafood, coffee, alcohol) where repeated exposure doesn’t help and can’t just be “pushed through.”

When Not to Force It

  • Several people insist it’s fine—and important—to accept stable dislikes (sports, cooking, karaoke, much TV).
  • A recurring theme: don’t mistake the essay for “you can/will like everything”; it’s more “sometimes your first reaction is wrong, so experiment.”
  • Some see deliberate trying-to-like as over-socialization or self-betrayal; they prefer intrinsic attraction, not “working” to enjoy something for others’ approval.

Kids, Exposure, and Broadening Horizons

  • Techniques for children: storytelling about changing tastes, respecting current preferences while keeping doors open, quick competence boosts, enthusiasm, camps/peer groups, and limiting more-attractive substitutes.
  • Parents note on-demand entertainment makes “just try it” harder; background/ambient exposure (music during chores, radio in the car) often works better than making “trying” a high-pressure activity.

Compulsion, Hobbies, and Rabbit Holes

  • Some avoid new categories (coffee, aquariums, beer) because they know they’ll obsess, burn time, and escalate gear costs.
  • Others report having too many hobbies and feeling stressed, or conversely being unable to fully immerse in anything. ADHD and dopamine dynamics come up repeatedly.

Context, Understanding, and Identity

  • Many emphasize that appreciation often follows understanding (architecture, churches, jazz, classical music, country, anime).
  • People distinguish between disliking a thing vs. disliking the culture around it (wine snobs, country fans, anime fandom, churches as institutions).
  • Travel and deliberate openness are framed as ways to keep mental plasticity, reduce pessimism, and avoid becoming rigidly negative with age.

Toronto’s network of pedestrian tunnels

Climate, Comfort, and Purpose

  • Many see Toronto’s cold, windy, slushy winters as a primary driver of the PATH’s development and value; others argue Toronto is “mild for Canada” and that the climate is being exaggerated.
  • Beyond temperature, “road snot” (dirty snow–salt–slush mix) and ice make surface walking unpleasant, especially at intersections.
  • Tunnels are also appreciated in summer heat and humidity; some condo residents reportedly live, commute, and run errands without going outside.
  • A macro argument: PATH connects a hyper-dense financial district to Union Station (~300k daily passengers), preventing dangerous sidewalk crowding at rush hour.

Comparisons to Other Cities

  • Similar systems cited: Montreal’s Réso, Winnipeg Walkway, Calgary’s +15 and +30/+45 levels, Minneapolis Skyway, Chicago Pedway, Sapporo and other Japanese undergrounds, Seoul, Hong Kong, Helsinki, and various university tunnel networks.
  • Quality varies: some (Toronto, Tokyo, parts of Montreal) feel like high-end malls; others (Chicago Pedway, Philadelphia concourse) are described as dingy, underfunded, or underused.

Design, Origins, and Economics

  • PATH grew piecemeal via one-to-one deals between buildings, motivated by leasing valuable basement retail and connecting to subway/commuter rail.
  • Early links reportedly predate mass car culture (e.g., between department stores), though later expansions intersect with car-dominated planning.
  • Retail is heavily oriented to 9–5 office workers; many shops close evenings/weekends and suffered after COVID, leaving noticeable vacancies.

Navigation, Scale, and Everyday Use

  • Users describe PATH as vast, maze-like, and poorly signed—effectively a chain of basements and malls; multiple routes turn trips into a “shortest path problem.”
  • GPS is unreliable; specialized apps exist, and one commenter experimented with Wi-Fi–based positioning before Android tightened APIs.
  • A 5K race in the tunnels highlighted both their utility (all-weather exercise) and their navigational complexity (runners got lost).

Urbanism, Cars, and Trade-offs

  • One camp sees tunnels/skyways as car-era band-aids that siphon life from streets and help office workers avoid the poor and the weather.
  • Others argue they complement, not replace, surface streets, and are justified by harsh or highly variable climates and extreme downtown density.
  • Broader debate spills into North American car dependence vs. European/Asian transit and walkability, with sharp disagreement over how much climate vs. policy and design truly matter.

What's New with Firefox 142

Local AI Translation & Models

  • Strong enthusiasm for Firefox’s fully local, offline translation; seen as genuinely useful and privacy-preserving.
  • Quality is considered “not perfect but amazing,” especially for users switching among many languages, including ones they know only partially.
  • Pain points:
    • Want ability to force translation even when language detection doesn’t trigger.
    • Desire for simple “good/bad translation” feedback to improve models.
  • Workarounds: translation via context menu or the main “Translate page…” entry.
  • Models are open and reused in third‑party apps (e.g., Android translator using the same models).

Link Previews & AI Summaries

  • Mixed reception: some find previews intriguing (especially with local AI summaries), others see them as slow, buggy, or redundant vs. middle‑click + close.
  • Discoverability disputed: long‑press vs. hover vs. OS “force click” on macOS; debate over what counts as a true “affordance.”
  • Privacy concerns:
    • Clarified that previews only load on explicit interaction (long‑press or menu) and summarization is local.
    • Still concern about unintentionally “visiting” tracking/phishing links, especially if hover mode is enabled.
  • Open questions/complaints:
    • Whether previews respect extensions like uBlock; some fear they may not.
    • Previews often blocked by cookie/newsletter modals or provide weak info (small card, generic text, slow AI).
    • Some users prefer Wikipedia-style or Arc/Zen-style modal “peek” rather than tiny cards.
  • Rollout is region‑limited; can be enabled via settings or about:config.

Relay & Email Masking

  • One camp calls relay domains “mostly useless” due to increasing blocking by sites.
  • Others report high success rates, hundreds of masks in use, and consider even partial coverage worth the cost.
  • Some use personal domains or Fastmail wildcards as more reliable alternatives; blocking is often treated as a red flag about the service itself.

Performance, Memory, and Diagnostics

  • Several reports of large memory leaks (8–15+ GB) and system lockups, especially left overnight.
  • Suggestions:
    • Use about:processes, about:memory, about:performance and OS task manager to identify offending tabs/sites.
    • Suspect particular web apps (e.g., Jenkins, Google tools) or extensions, especially YouTube or Electron apps.
    • Check network issues (e.g., IPv6) and consider that some OOM problems come from distro package updates + forced restarts.
  • Disagreement over whether new AI features materially affect performance; at least one confirmed regression was fixed pre‑wide rollout.

Direction, AI Fatigue & UX

  • Widespread frustration with “AI everywhere”; many users disable all AI except translation.
  • Complaints that Firefox focuses on features (AI, new‑tab recommendations, link previews) instead of:
    • Core performance and memory robustness.
    • Web compatibility and JS/HTML engine speed vs. Chromium.
    • Long‑standing issues (spellchecker quality, broken find, tab-loss bugs, security hardening).
  • Others appreciate tab groups and UI work; for some, tab groups finally make Firefox viable.
  • New‑tab content recommendations are compared to “portal” bloat but are easy to turn off; irritation that they sometimes reappear with new variants.

Platform & Privacy Oddities

  • macOS users criticize slow adoption of native behaviors (scrollbars, keychain, force‑click previews, fullscreen) and say Firefox often feels non‑native.
  • Debate over private windows blocking clipboard history:
    • One side values strict privacy.
    • Another wants an opt‑out because they rely on clipboard tools for client work.
    • Containers/temporary containers are suggested as alternative session‑isolation tools.
  • Some view Firefox as too eager to make non‑user‑initiated HTTP requests and telemetry by default, and wish for a mode with zero unsolicited prompts or network calls.

Europol said ChatControl doesn't go far enough; they want to retain data forever

Law Enforcement, Safety, and Distrust

  • Strong current of hostility toward police: claims that law enforcement is power-hungry, rarely helps victims, arrives too late, and often prefers easy prosecutions (including of victims) over real investigation.
  • Counterpoint: some commenters value living in “safe” countries and see law enforcement as necessary, but are answered with anecdotes of theft and burglary cases where police allegedly did nothing meaningful.
  • Underlying fear: giving police more powers (like ChatControl) will not improve everyday safety but will increase abuse and overreach.

Europol, ChatControl, and the Surveillance State

  • Many see Europol’s push for broad data access as a predictable bureaucratic power grab, drifting toward an EU-level NSA/FBI and a panopticon-like system.
  • Some argue that “more data” is not automatically helpful: it creates noise, false leads, and investigative overload; others respond that modern AI could make large-scale analysis more feasible.
  • Concern that terrorism/child protection narratives are being instrumentalized to normalize mass surveillance and long-term data retention.

Circumvention, Encryption, and Platform Control

  • Discussion on how ChatControl targets “publicly available” messengers, incentivizing private, self-hosted, or P2P encrypted tools (XMPP/OMEMO, Matrix, Tox).
  • Recognition that existing tech works but network effects and usability keep most people on mainstream apps.
  • Fear that states may respond by locking down devices (app-store control, “trusted” signatures, ISP-level filtering), though others insist such controls will be circumvented as usual.

Politicians, Exemptions, and Transparency

  • Strong sentiment that if surveillance is justified, it should apply first to elected officials, with lifelong retention and post-mortem disclosure.
  • Anger that politicians are reportedly exempt from ChatControl while also accused of quietly deleting politically sensitive communications.
  • Comparisons to Sweden’s radical transparency model provoke split reactions: some see it as working well; others find it intolerably invasive.

Legitimacy of Europol in Lawmaking

  • One side: police (including Europol) should only enforce laws; lobbying for new powers undermines separation of powers and risks a “police state.”
  • Other side: agencies must be allowed to express operational needs; democratic institutions still decide, so open debate is appropriate.
  • Broader anxiety that the EU steadily expands competencies, with Europol potentially evolving into a true federal police.

Free Speech, Misinformation, and EU Regulation

  • Disagreement over EU digital laws (DSA, etc.): some praise them alongside GDPR as necessary responses to disinformation, hate campaigns, and algorithm-driven radicalization.
  • Others insist censorship is worse than misinformation and fuels the rise of populist and far-right parties; they argue for combating falsehoods with verifiable facts instead.

Credibility, Sources, and Activism

  • Some argue the story is over-sensationalized, based on remarks from a single unnamed official; others respond that in such meetings, statements usually reflect institutional positions.
  • References to investigative pieces and NGO reports about lobbying (e.g., from child-protection NGOs) and calls to support digital-rights groups and tools tracking national positions on ChatControl.

Unfortunately, the ICEBlock app is activism theater

Critique of ICEBlock and “activism theater”

  • Some see the blog post as gatekeeping: attacking an imperfect but well‑intentioned effort and “letting the air out of the balloon.”
  • Others argue it’s responsible criticism: the app makes strong privacy/safety promises while its creator demonstrably lacks basic security/legal-threat knowledge, which can actively endanger users.
  • Analogies used: an unsafe gas mask or taxi driver who doesn’t know to turn headlights on—below a minimum bar, the tool is worse than useless.

Security, reliability, and abuse potential

  • Existing community alert networks reportedly see >90% false positives even with human verification; a public, unaudited app is viewed as even more vulnerable to panic, error, and malicious trolling.
  • Commenters sketch simple Sybil/fake‑report strategies and note that an adversarial state or trolls could flood the system.
  • Centralized infrastructure (Apple, identifiable traffic) raises fears the app could be used to identify resisters, not protect them.

Debate over “activism theater”

  • Several argue US activism is largely symbolic: feel‑good actions by people who don’t understand power or institutions.
  • Others counter that “theater” historically shifts public opinion (e.g., sit‑ins) and is one of the few levers ordinary people have.

Is the app needed? Views on ICE

  • Pro‑app perspective:
    • ICE is described as behaving like secret police—masked, unmarked vans, car window smashing, raids outside courts, rapid transfers, and even deportations in defiance of court orders.
    • Immigration violations are civil; people (including citizens and legal residents) are being detained without meaningful due process. The app is likened to a smoke detector: an imperfect early warning in a dangerous environment.
  • Anti‑app / pro‑enforcement perspective:
    • Emphasis on sovereignty and rule of law: countries have a right to control borders; inconsistent enforcement undermines democracy and workers’ rights.
    • Some see the app as aiding illegal activity and obstructing a policy a president was explicitly elected to carry out.

Immigration system, ethics, and consequences

  • Many describe US immigration law as irrational, slow, and self‑contradictory, with people cycling documented→undocumented due to bureaucracy.
  • One side stresses humanitarian and economic catastrophe if millions of long‑settled people are expelled; the other stresses cultural cohesion, labor competition, and national responsibility.

Alternatives and “non‑theatrical” action

  • Suggestions include: focus on legal reform, easier paths to status, punishing employers of undocumented workers, and joining organizations that provide verified alerts and legal aid rather than relying on a fragile app.

Next.js is infuriating

Logging and observability pain points

  • Many agree with the article that just getting logs out of a production Next.js app—especially via middleware—is far harder than in typical back-end frameworks.
  • Debate centers on what “production-quality logging” means: some say stdout + a basic logger is fine; others insist it must include telemetry, rotation, structured logs, and integration with systems like Kibana/Datadog.
  • Next.js’s answer (OpenTelemetry + instrumentation.ts) is seen by critics as overkill and “one more heavy layer” when developers just want logger.info() to work; defenders argue OTEL is a sensible, vendor-neutral standard for distributed systems.
  • Several reports say OTEL + Pino in Next is brittle (dependency flags, import order, globals, experimental packages), reinforcing the sense that observability is a “two-problem” situation now.

Middleware, runtimes, and mental model confusion

  • A central complaint: Next.js “middleware” doesn’t behave like middleware in Express/Rails/Rack-style stacks. It’s a single edge hook, not a composable chain on the main server.
  • Official guidance to “combine multiple middlewares into one file” feels fundamentally wrong to those expecting conventional, pluggable middleware.
  • The edge vs Node vs SSR vs client execution model (plus React Server Components, streaming, and caching) is widely described as hard to reason about; people struggle to know where code runs and when.
  • Some say the article misunderstands these boundaries; others respond that if a seasoned dev can’t form a clear mental model, that’s a framework design failure, not “user error.”

Complexity, churn, and documentation

  • Many recall Next.js (with the Pages Router) as simple and effective; the App Router + RSC era is seen as a turning point into “resume‑driven” over‑engineering.
  • Frequent major versions, API shifts, and partially baked features (middleware, app router, RSC) create upgrade fear and make AI-generated examples unreliable.
  • Documentation is criticized as high-level and marketing-friendly, but thin on precise execution details, pitfalls, and non‑Vercel deployment nuances.

Vercel, lock-in, and motivations

  • Strong sentiment that Next.js’s rough edges (edge-only middleware, lack of simple logging, awkward self-hosting, image stack quirks) funnel teams toward Vercel’s platform.
  • Some frame this as deliberate vendor lock-in and “enshittification”; others counter that Vercel legitimately funds OSS and provides good DX, and that self-hosting Next is possible (e.g., via Docker/Kubernetes).
  • There’s broader worry that React’s official endorsement of Next has effectively “captured” the React ecosystem for a single commercial actor.

Comparisons and alternatives

  • Multiple people state they’ve migrated away from Next to:
    • React Router v7 / “framework mode” (ex‑Remix)
    • Vite + React + explicit API servers
    • Astro (SSG + islands)
    • SvelteKit, Nuxt, SolidStart, Hono/HonoX, Fresh (Deno)
    • Inertia.js with Laravel/Rails/Adonis, or plain Django/Rails/Laravel + HTMX/Alpine/Datastar
  • Many praise these for simpler mental models, explicit server/client separation, or more conventional middleware and logging stories.

Broader ecosystem criticism

  • Thread repeatedly zooms out to critique modern JS/TS and “full-stack React” culture: too many layers, fast-breaking APIs, marketing-driven design, and frameworks optimized for e‑commerce/landing pages rather than complex apps.
  • Several back-end and veteran web devs say they’re retreating to “boring tech” (Rails, Django, Spring, Phoenix, Go, plain HTML+CSS+minimal JS) for long‑lived, maintainable systems.

Ask HN: Who is hiring? (September 2025)

Meta: Rules and Moderation of “Who Is Hiring” Threads

  • Moderators repeatedly detach job‑seeker complaints (e.g., “no reply to my applications”) from specific job posts, pointing to long‑standing rules that WIH threads are for listings and clarifying questions only.
  • Linked to many past explanations: HN doesn’t have resources to adjudicate disputes about hiring practices or to police whether companies are “really” hiring.
  • Some users feel the rules favor companies (“rules for job seekers, carte blanche for companies”); mods argue the rules also protect good actors and avoid flame wars they can’t moderate effectively.
  • One exchange involved a moderator mis-attributing a quote; they later corrected themselves and apologized, showing some transparency about moderation mistakes.

Ghost Jobs, Repeated Ads, and Skepticism

  • Multiple commenters note seeing the same companies post identical roles month after month, sometimes for years, with little visible headcount change.
  • This fuels suspicion that some listings are “ghost jobs” or long‑running candidate collection funnels. Users ask why such companies aren’t blocked or flagged.
  • Moderation response: some firms are genuinely always hiring; distinguishing bad faith from high growth is infeasible without intrusive verification.
  • A few users propose “let the market decide” by allowing public call‑outs in-thread, but moderators say such a rating system would itself need heavy governance and HN is not positioned to provide that.

Remote Work, Location and Compensation Issues

  • Many clarifying questions center on whether “remote” means worldwide versus limited regions, and whether salary is localized (e.g., Zurich vs. Munich, US vs. EU).
  • Some companies explicitly state EU/UK/EEA‑only or US‑only, or that they don’t sponsor visas; others are pressed to clarify mismatches between “remote (worldwide)” in the HN post and “US only” on their ATS pages.
  • A few threads touch on fairness: one commenter challenges location-adjusted pay as perpetuating low wages in cheaper regions.

Candidate Experience and Communication

  • Several users report applying (sometimes multiple times) to the same employers (e.g., education platforms, AI startups) without any response, questioning whether applications are even read.
  • In one notable case, a candidate describes progressing through multiple interview stages, discussing comp and start date, then being silently dropped; they still recommend the company but criticize the lack of closure.
  • Some hiring managers respond directly, inviting follow‑up by email and promising to “read all resumes,” or quickly fixing broken email addresses / job links when applicants point them out.

Product and Company Feedback

  • Scattered comments express strong enthusiasm for specific products (e.g., trail apps, analytics platforms, captcha alternatives, education sites), sometimes saying the product culture inferred from small UX touches (like a cookie banner) motivated them to apply.
  • Others report minor technical issues with careers sites (JS errors, broken forms, unclear submission confirmations) and are generally met with quick acknowledgments and fixes.

Ask HN: Who wants to be hired? (September 2025)

Geography & Work Setup

  • Very globally distributed: heavy representation from US, Canada, UK/EU, India, LatAm, plus Africa, Middle East, and APAC.
  • Strong bias toward remote: many insist on fully remote; some open to hybrid or specific cities; a minority prefer on-site.
  • A number limit relocation (e.g., within EU, specific countries or states); others are explicitly relocation-friendly, often with existing visas/PR.

Roles & Seniority

  • Wide range from interns/new grads and juniors to staff, principal, directors, and ex-CTO/founders.
  • Common engineering roles:
    • Backend / platform / distributed systems and infra.
    • Full‑stack web with a front‑end or backend lean.
    • Data engineering, ML/AI engineering, and data science.
    • Embedded, firmware, robotics, real‑time and safety‑critical systems.
    • Mobile (iOS/Android/Flutter) and game/graphics engineers.
  • Many are comfortable as early founding engineers, tech leads, or fractional CTOs; several explicitly seek 0→1 product work or small, fast‑moving teams.

Technologies & Domains

  • Backend stacks: Python, Go, TypeScript/Node, Java, C#/.NET, Ruby on Rails, Elixir; strong presence of C/C++ and Rust for systems work.
  • Frontend: React/Next.js, Vue, Svelte, Angular, HTMX, Tailwind, design systems, accessibility.
  • Infra/DevOps: AWS/GCP/Azure, Kubernetes, Terraform, CI/CD, observability, SRE/Platform roles.
  • Specialized niches include: GIS/airspace, compilers, DSP/audio, graphics/WebGL/WebGPU, XR/visionOS, fintech, legal tech, healthcare, embedded security, HFT, robotics, and bioinformatics.

AI/ML & Data Focus

  • Significant cluster focused on LLMs and agents: RAG systems, fine‑tuning, MCP, LangChain/LangGraph, evaluation, AI infra and orchestration.
  • Others emphasize traditional ML (computer vision, NLP, reinforcement learning, scientific computing) or data platforms (Spark/Flink, dbt, Snowflake/BigQuery, Kafka).
  • Several describe concrete AI products built (radiology, legal drafting, email workflows, document analysis, tutoring, trading, etc.).

Non-Engineering & Hybrid Roles

  • Product managers (including very senior and growth‑oriented), product‑minded engineers, technical founders, and strategy/architecture consultants.
  • UX/UI and product designers, brand designers, creative technologists, motion/3D designers.
  • QA automation, DevRel, security/pen‑testing, AML/compliance analytics, and technical marketing.

Work Style & Preferences

  • Many stress: autonomy, high trust, talking to users, shipping quickly, and reliability in production.
  • Multiple people note long remote histories and comfort with async, cross‑time‑zone collaboration.
  • A few mention difficulty getting past automated CV/AI filters and explicitly invite direct human contact.

When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

Access / Meta

  • Several readers reported being blocked or timing out on the original site; an archive link was shared.

UK Power, Hong Kong, and Chagos

  • Strong disagreement over whether the UK “failed to protect” Hong Kong:
    • One side argues Britain abandoned treaty obligations and could have done more (e.g., pushing harder on autonomy, not returning all of Hong Kong, or exploring ROC/Taiwan options).
    • Others argue the UK had almost no leverage against the PRC, and any serious confrontation would have been suicidal militarily and economically; offering migration paths (BNO visas) was the realistic limit.
    • The early end of “50 years of autonomy” via the National Security Law is cited as treaty violation that the UK cannot meaningfully enforce.
  • On the Chagos Islands:
    • Some see the UK’s deal to give them up as symbol of decline and unnecessary loss of strategic territory (“unsinkable aircraft carrier”), plus betrayal of islanders.
    • Others welcome shedding a legally and politically costly remnant with little benefit to the UK itself.

Is the British Empire Really Gone? Commonwealth, Monarchy, and Soft Power

  • Debate over whether countries like Canada and Australia are still “the empire”:
    • One camp: sharing a monarch and cultural institutions makes them de facto continuation.
    • Counterpoint (well supported in-thread): these are fully independent realms with their own “King of X”, their own constitutions, and only ceremonial/then-ignored residual royal powers; key episodes (King–Byng, 1975 Australian crisis, Australia Act 1986) cited as breaking UK control.
  • Some argue the UK remains a mid-sized but still significant power (nukes, G7 economy, cultural/financial influence); others insist it is “non-world power” clinging to nostalgia.

.io TLD and Post-Colonial Internet Fallout

  • Question raised about what happens to .io if the British Indian Ocean Territory ceases to exist.
  • Explanation:
    • ccTLDs are tied to ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 codes; if the territory/code is retired, .io should eventually be phased out (multi‑year sunset).
    • Precedents exist (e.g., .yu); but .su (Soviet Union) persists due to political resistance.
    • Some expect .io to vanish as a ccTLD; others predict it will be grandfathered or converted to a generic TLD given its heavy use and revenue potential.

French (and Other) “Never-Setting” Empires

  • Several notes that France still spans time zones (French Guiana, Indian Ocean, Pacific territories), so the “sun never sets” trope still loosely applies.
  • Side discussion on:
    • France’s longest land border (Brazil, via French Guiana).
    • Measurement quirks of borders (coastline paradox, river thalwegs, differing survey methods).

Legacy of the British Empire: Benefit vs Atrocity

  • Extremely polarized views:
    • One stance: former colonies “universally benefited” (law, administration, infrastructure, trade, etc.); decline of the empire seen as civilizational loss, with US hegemony as its informal successor.
    • Strong rebuttals: point to genocides, famines (Ireland, India), the opium trade, partition violence, and long-term social damage (including colonial manipulation of caste and sectarian divisions). For many, dissolution is framed as a moral victory.
    • Nuanced middle positions: some domains (e.g., settler colonies like Canada/Australia) clearly ended up wealthier; others were exploited and left unstable. The Commonwealth’s persistence is cited both as soft-power legacy and as possible “Stockholm syndrome.”

Contemporary Perceptions of the UK

  • One commenter expresses deep pessimism: sees the UK as culturally and economically spent, over‑policed online, and on a long decline since WWII.
  • Multiple responses counter that:
    • The UK still sits mid‑pack or better among rich countries on growth and income, with issues similar to other Western states (ageing, debt, fertility).
    • Social‑media narratives exaggerate its dysfunction; problems are real but not uniquely catastrophic.

Residual “Empire” Through Finance

  • Final note that even if territorial empire ends, some see a de facto British “empire” persisting via global banking, tax havens, and financial networks centered in the UK and its dependencies.

Altered states of consciousness induced by breathwork accompanied by music

Connections to Existing Traditions and Practices

  • Many see the protocol as closely related to yogic pranayama, holotropic breathwork, and other “circular breathing” methods (no pause between inhale/exhale).
  • Commenters link it to long-standing indigenous and religious practices (shamanic drumming, sweat lodges, Sufi dhikr, church rituals, meditation retreats), arguing the West is “rediscovering” old empirical techniques.
  • Some emphasize that these traditions are not “mumbo-jumbo” but experience-based systems that modern neuroscience is only now mapping.

Mechanism, Definitions, and Safety

  • The breathing is described as deliberate, sustained hyperventilation synchronized with increasingly intense music.
  • Users note strong physiological effects (lightheadedness, tingling, intense emotions), likening it to “advanced hyperventilating until you feel lightheaded.”
  • Concerns raised about potential side effects: seizures (especially with light/sound machines), cardiovascular risks, and the long-known warnings around doing pranayama incorrectly.
  • There’s debate over what “altered state of consciousness” means; some see the term as vague, others point to established clinical inventories and neuropsychological frameworks.

Therapeutic Claims and Ethics

  • Breathwork is discussed as a tool for trauma release, addiction (especially alcoholism), anxiety regulation, and emotional processing.
  • Strong emphasis from some on the need for skilled, trustworthy facilitators; others say vetting is very difficult and suggest word-of-mouth recommendations.
  • Ethical concerns arise around group sessions in workplace/team contexts and around practitioners implying clinical credentials or psychotherapy-style authority without formal licensing.

Technology, Music, and Tools

  • Several report powerful states from light-and-sound “mind machines,” phone apps that strobe the camera flash, VR experiences, and binaural beats—sometimes compared to mild psychedelic experiences.
  • Others find them uncomfortable or potentially seizure-inducing, and note that the evidence for brainwave “entrainment” is unclear.
  • Commenters share playlists (e.g. “Shamanic Breathwork”) and discuss how rising tempo and rhythmic structure may help drive the state.

Anecdotes, Skepticism, and Meta-Discussion

  • Many describe transformative experiences via meditation retreats, holotropic sessions, ecstatic dance/EDM, choir singing, or breathwork workshops.
  • Others are skeptical of grandiose or pseudo-scientific claims (especially extreme “biohacking” stories) and the commercialization targeting stressed founders.
  • Meta-thread: tension between welcoming unconventional healing narratives, maintaining scientific rigor, and protecting vulnerable readers from unsubstantiated or risky practices.

House to investigate Wikipedia over allegations of organized bias

Perceived Motives and Political Context

  • Many see the probe as a pretext: nominally about “foreign influence,” but in practice targeting criticism of Republicans, Christian conservatism, Israel, and pro‑LGBTQ+ content.
  • Several compare it to McCarthyism: using an “investigation” to intimidate dissent, damage reputations, and chill speech, regardless of actual findings.
  • Some argue it’s mainly a distraction and PR stunt; others see it as part of a broader authoritarian pattern (attacks on universities, TikTok, media, climate reports).

Legality, First Amendment, and Government Role

  • Strong sentiment that the government should not police editorial bias in private or nonprofit entities; that would amount to a “Ministry of Truth.”
  • Nonprofits are still private and protected by the First Amendment, though their 501(c)(3) status can be attacked via claims of political activity.
  • Discussion of possible pressure levers: revoking tax exemption, labeling as foreign agents, banking restrictions, domain blocking, or invasive disclosure demands.

What the Letter Reportedly Requests

  • A commenter cites the letter’s asks: records on coordinated editing by nation‑states and academics, all Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) cases, and identifying info (including IPs) of sanctioned editors, plus internal analyses of Israel‑/antisemitism‑related bias.
  • The request for editor identities and IPs is widely seen as dangerous and likely to deter participation in controversial topics.

Is Wikipedia Biased? How?

  • Broad agreement that Wikipedia has bias—inevitable in any large collaborative system—but dispute over its direction and significance.
  • Some describe entrenched editors “lawyering” the rules to control pages, cabals, and organized campaigns (notably around Israel/Palestine and “Gaza genocide”).
  • Others emphasize that Wikipedia reflects existing reliable sources and notability rather than inventing concepts; if only certain terms (e.g., “Trump derangement syndrome”) have substantial coverage, they get standalone pages.

Debates over Specific Articles and Neutrality

  • The “Trump derangement syndrome” page is a flashpoint: critics say hosting a pejorative legitimizes culture‑war attacks and shows partisan bias; defenders note it documents a widely used term and labels it as a fallacy.
  • Related pages on “Bush derangement syndrome” and Obama conspiracy theories are cited to argue that coverage is broader than a single figure.

Protection, Forks, and Resilience

  • Some propose moving Wikimedia out of the US or preparing for possible blocking; others note Wikipedia already offers full database dumps and has many mirrors.
  • But several stress that the true value is not just data: it’s the volunteer community, norms, and central role in the knowledge ecosystem, which are harder to replicate.

Free Speech Climate and Broader Implications

  • Multiple comments see this as part of a wider retreat of free speech in the US, with selective enforcement against disfavored viewpoints.
  • There is concern that even if no formal sanctions result, the process itself—investigations, subpoenas, threats—imposes costs, chills participation, and signals that independent information sources are targets.

A failure of security systems at PayPal is causing concern for German banks

PayPal security and user experiences

  • Many commenters report long‑standing problems: random account locks/closures, frozen funds, opaque decisions, and weak customer support with no meaningful appeal.
  • Several say they abandoned PayPal or keep only minimal balances, using it only when merchants force it.
  • There are anecdotes of unexplained negative balances, seized money, and difficulty deleting accounts or data.
  • Some users feel PayPal leaks or sells data, citing unique email addresses that later receive spam and merchants apparently being updated with new PayPal emails.
  • Others stress that fraud prevention is a “Red Queen” game; huge volumes of fraud attempts are blocked but not visible to users, and a non‑zero false positive rate is inevitable. The real failure is the lack of effective appeal and staffing.

Current incident: German banks blocking PayPal debits

  • Reports describe widespread unauthorized SEPA direct debits via PayPal, estimated at around €10B, after PayPal’s fraud checks allegedly failed.
  • German banks responded by blocking incoming PayPal direct debits to protect customers and themselves, as SEPA gives consumers strong, essentially automatic chargeback rights.
  • Similar unauthorized withdrawals were reported at a Dutch bank and withdrawal issues were mentioned in the UK. Detailed root cause remains unclear.

Why PayPal is still big in Germany/Europe

  • In Germany, PayPal is said to handle roughly 30% of online purchases. Historically it offered instant payments when credit cards were rare and bank transfers were slow.
  • For many online merchants, especially internationally, PayPal remains the most convenient or only broadly supported option. Buyer protection is seen as real added value.

European alternatives and modernization

  • Numerous national systems (iDEAL, Giropay/Paydirekt, EPS, Twint, MobilePay, Blik, etc.) already offer instant, bank‑linked payments; users in those countries often barely need PayPal domestically.
  • Wero aims to unify and eventually replace several of these schemes on top of SEPA Instant. Some see it as promising and already integrated in banking apps; others view it as slow, bureaucratic, and not yet widely supported.
  • German banks are criticized for resisting instant transfers and digital innovation until legally forced, partly to preserve float revenue; others point to genuine settlement and liquidity issues.

GMP damaging Zen 5 CPUs?

Whether GMP Can Really “Burn” Zen 5 CPUs

  • Many commenters stress that user‑space software should not be able to physically damage a modern CPU; if tight MULX/AVX loops from GMP can, that implies a hardware/firmware defect.
  • Others note that very dense vector/math workloads can act as “power viruses,” creating unusual, highly localized hotspots that stress parts of the die differently than typical mixed workloads.

Thermals, Hotspots, and Throttling Limits

  • Several posts argue that modern CPUs have sophisticated DVFS and thermal protection and should only throttle or crash, not die, even with poor cooling or missing coolers.
  • Counterpoint: thermal mass of the die is tiny and power is huge (hundreds of amps at ~1–1.3V), so localized regions can heat in microseconds; sensors and firmware must predict load patterns, not just react.
  • Some suggest GMP‑like tight loops or AVX/FFT workloads can concentrate heat in a small area (e.g., vector units) faster than protection triggers.

Cooling Solution and Mounting Debate

  • The chosen cooler (Noctua NH‑U9S, ~140–165W class) is below the 9950X’s 170W TDP and well below observed ~200–240W socket power; many call this under‑spec for 24/7, all‑core heavy math.
  • Others counter that Noctua’s own compatibility table classifies it as acceptable (“medium headroom”) for 9950X and that paste patterns show full IHS contact, with intentional offset mounting toward the hotter chiplet side.
  • Broad agreement that an undersized or marginal cooler should reduce performance, not kill silicon, if protections work properly.

TDP, Power Draw, and Marketing Confusion

  • Large subthread argues that AMD/Intel TDP figures are marketing numbers, not hard limits on heat or power; real sustained draw can exceed TDP by ~30% or more under boost/PBO.
  • This makes it easy for builders to unintentionally pair “TDP‑matched” coolers with chips that, in practice, sustain far higher power under heavy workloads.

Motherboards, Firmware, and Over‑Aggressive Defaults

  • Multiple comments blame boards more than GMP: reports of AM5 boards (especially some ASRock and budget Asus models) using aggressive PBO, high VSOC/XMP settings, and marginal VRMs, leading to instability or failures.
  • Suggestions: disable PBO, use Eco Mode, cap VSOC (~≤1.2V), undervolt, and overspec cooling and PSUs, especially for long‑running HPC‑style loads.

Anecdotes and Broader Reliability Concerns

  • Several users report Zen‑era CPUs or boards dying under heavy or quirky loads (Prime95, LINPACK, evolutionary algorithms), and note similar recent issues with Intel’s 13/14‑gen parts.
  • Overall sentiment: something in the Zen 4/5 + AM5 ecosystem (power limits, board tuning, or protections) appears fragile under worst‑case workloads, and merits independent thermal/power investigation.

VIM Master

Overall reaction to VIM Master

  • People like the idea and presentation; several call it “cool” and “fun”, and mention using it in lessons or courses.
  • Many want more depth: more levels, macros as a “next level”, and challenges for intermediate/advanced users rather than only basics.
  • A few users hit bugs: :qa dropping into insert mode with undeletable text, diw/daw incorrectly entering insert mode, lack of support for non-default keybind configs, and missing <C-[ as Escape in challenge mode.

Comparisons to other Vim learning tools

  • Multiple alternatives are mentioned:
    • vimtutor / Neovim tutor (viewed as the “original” tutorial; some are surprised it’s not referenced).
    • vim-adventures, vim-hero, vimsnake, pacvim, Vimcasts screencasts.
    • Vimgolf and vimgolf.ai; VS Code “learn vim” extensions.
  • One analogy: vimtutor is to VIM Master as Babbel is to Duolingo — textbook vs gamified learning.
  • Some say these games are great for basic motions and muscle memory, but often stop short of advanced features.

Pricing, login, and UX gripes (other tools)

  • Strong criticism of vim-adventures’ 6‑month subscription model; several prefer one-time purchase and/or an offline copy.
  • Some paid and felt it was worth it for making learning tolerable; others disliked gating basic motions behind progression and felt it taught bad habits compared to vimtutor.
  • vimgolf.ai and vimgolf’s required sign-up (Twitter/GitHub) are seen as off-putting, especially for a niche Linux/Vim audience.

Desire for deeper skill-building

  • Many commenters struggle with “knowing when I can be more efficient” and want tools that push marks, registers, macros, and advanced motions.
  • Suggestions:
    • Plugins like hardtime.nvim to discourage inefficient navigation.
    • Exercise repos, Vim Message-of-the-Day scripts, and Vim Golf-style puzzles for optimization.
  • Numerous concrete tips shared: using marks (ma, 'a) for yanking/deleting; visual/column mode and relative line numbers; better exit commands (:xa, :qa!, :wqa, :up) and custom mappings.

Vim philosophy and ergonomics

  • Several describe learning Vim as one of their best time investments and compare mastery to playing an instrument.
  • Others caution against over-optimizing editing when design/decision-making is often the real bottleneck, though advanced text manipulation (column editing, macros, regex) can be a major win in niche tasks.
  • Minor side debate: staying within POSIX vi vs embracing modern Vim features; plus common ergonomics like remapping Caps Lock to Escape.