Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results
Q1 Results, Stock, and Valuation
- Deliveries missed expectations; Tesla produced ~46k more cars than it sold, seen as an oversupply problem rather than supply-chain constraint.
- Some frame the quarter as “disastrous” because the stock’s sky‑high valuation assumes continued hyper‑growth; others call it unsurprising given macro conditions.
- Comparisons to Toyota and other automakers emphasize Tesla’s still‑rich valuation despite lower volumes.
- One employee says poor results triggered job‑searching, anticipating layoffs and/or less valuable stock-based comp.
Demand, Interest Rates, and Market Saturation
- Higher interest rates and high vehicle prices are widely cited as depressing demand; many buyers focus on monthly payments.
- Some see early‑adopter EV markets as saturated, especially among homeowners with easy home charging.
- Multiple commenters report considering plug‑in hybrids instead of full EVs; hybrid sales are said to be surging relative to EVs.
Competition and Product Positioning
- Tesla once had little competition; now Hyundai/Kia, BMW, Mercedes, Rivian, Lucid, etc. are seen as credible alternatives with better interiors and fewer quirks.
- Tesla’s lack of a true low‑cost EV and slow refresh cycle (styling, platforms) are criticized; focus on Cybertruck is viewed by some as misallocated effort.
Musk’s Reputation and Brand Impact
- Many say they either won’t buy another Tesla or refuse to consider one at all due to Musk’s behavior and politics; others explicitly buy because they like him.
- Several note that Tesla’s core early‑adopter demographic skews against his current public persona, while the political group he courts is often anti‑EV.
- Some argue most mainstream buyers are not deeply online and care more about price and practicality than CEO antics; others counter that prospective Tesla buyers are unusually online.
Product Design, Quality, and Features
- Recurrent complaints: build quality, reliability, service experiences, and insurance costs.
- Interior changes—removal of stalks, heavy reliance on touchscreens, steering‑wheel buttons for critical functions—are widely disliked and seen as cost‑cutting.
- Opinions on Autopilot/FSD are mixed: recognized as advanced but clearly still Level 2 and far from the robo‑taxi vision; free trials are seen as a sales push.
Charging, Practicality, and Adoption Barriers
- Tesla’s Supercharger network is still a major advantage, but opening it to others erodes exclusivity.
- Home charging is key; apartment dwellers and those without dedicated parking face real hurdles.
- Some owners report L1/L2 home charging works well and makes EV ownership easier; others highlight sparse fast‑charging in dense cities.
Governance and Strategic Direction
- Commenters criticize a “toothless” board unlikely to rein in or replace Musk.
- Hyper‑focus on side projects (Twitter/X, Cybertruck, robo‑taxis) and constant over‑promising are seen as distracting from core product updates.
- Debate continues on whether Tesla is still a high‑growth “tech” story or settling into being a regular automaker with normal growth.