A 1.3B-light-year-across ring of galaxies has confounded astronomers
Statistical significance vs. coincidence
- Some argue a ring-like structure is expected occasionally from a random galaxy distribution; with enough “dots,” circles, rabbits, or “lol :)” patterns will appear.
- Others cite the paper’s analysis (CHMS algorithm, ~5.2σ departure from random) as evidence it is unlikely to be pure noise and therefore publishable.
- Skeptics reply that the artist’s impression is misleading; the actual structure is jagged and filament-like, and could be an instance of over‑interpretation or “constellation‑ism.”
3D geometry, projection, and our viewpoint
- Several discuss whether the “ring” might be a 2D projection artifact: galaxies at varied distances that only look circular from Earth’s line of sight.
- Counterpoints reference the use of redshift slices (Mg II absorbers at specific z) showing galaxies at similar distances, implying a genuine 3D overdensity.
- Another commenter claims the structure has large radial thickness (~400 Mpc), comparable to the largest known structures, and criticizes the work as effectively picking a circle from a thick shell.
Cosmological principle and large-scale structure
- A major thread connects this and similar discoveries (e.g., the Giant Arc) to possible violations of homogeneity and isotropy in ΛCDM.
- One side stresses that standard cosmology assumes large-scale homogeneity; structures this large are unexpected and may challenge the cosmological principle.
- Others say the principle has been fruitful (e.g., in predicting the CMB) and remains a necessary approximation; isolated anomalies do not yet overturn it.
Randomness, patterns, and probability arguments
- Long subthreads debate whether seeing a ring is “astonishing” or just inevitable pattern-finding in huge datasets.
- Analogies include dice and coin tosses, random strings vs. meaningful English sentences, and shapes emerging from random point clouds.
- Some emphasize multiple‑endpoints/data‑mining bias: from billions of galaxies, some subset will look special; others counter that certain configurations are vastly rarer and legitimately surprising.
Speculative ideas and alternative explanations
- Lighthearted or speculative suggestions include alien megastructures, Kardashev Type III+ civilizations, gravitational lensing artifacts, other universes “poking” into ours, or simulation glitches.
- A technical side thread explores whether such a structure could be related to rotating spacetime or closed timelike curves; consensus in the thread is that known GR mechanisms cannot plausibly do this at these scales.
Miscellaneous clarifications
- Commenters note the ring is ~9.2 billion light-years away; we see it as it was when the universe was young.
- The “Big Ring” and the “Giant Arc” are described as neighbors to each other in distance and sky position, not neighbors to Earth.