Volcanoes can affect climate
Volcanic CO₂ vs Human Emissions
- Multiple comments stress that volcanoes emit far less CO₂ than humans.
- One cites estimates that humans emit ~100× more CO₂ annually than all volcanoes combined.
- The 1991 Mount Pinatubo eruption is mentioned: ~0.05 GT CO₂, roughly equal to ~12 hours of current human emissions.
- Explanation that subducted carbonates (e.g., limestone) are a volcanic CO₂ source.
- Some initially assume “large eruptions must dominate,” but others counter that even very large eruptions are small next to ongoing human output.
Volcano-Induced Cooling and Historical Impacts
- Mount Tambora’s 1815 eruption and the “Year Without a Summer” are cited: rapid global cooling, crop failures, and famine.
- Krakatoa and Tambora are used as examples of why deliberately triggering major eruptions is likely a bad idea.
- Comments note that volcanoes can cool for months–years via aerosols, while their CO₂ impact is comparatively minor and long-term.
Sulfur, Aerosols, and Geoengineering Proposals
- Discussion of stratospheric aerosol injection and “volcanic winter” as a template for solar geoengineering.
- Ideas include sulfur cannons (as in fiction), extra sulfur in jet fuel, marine cloud brightening, and ship emissions as de facto “sulfur sprayers.”
- Some argue stratospheric injection gives strong cooling with less acid rain than tropospheric sulfur.
Risks, Uncertainties, and Ethical Concerns
- Concerns: crop losses from reduced sunlight, acid rain, ocean acidification compounding CO₂ effects, ozone impacts, regional weather disruption.
- Debate over how well volcanic analogs generalize: some say sulfur physics is well understood; others say complex climate feedbacks make extrapolation risky.
- A key worry: sulfates are short-lived, so stopping injections after delaying decarbonization could cause rapid “catch‑up” warming.
- Counterpoint: short lifetime is seen as a safety feature—if harmful, effects decay in 1–2 years.
- Fears of “cowboy geoengineering” by states or billionaires, with no global governance.
Climate Policy, Decarbonization, and Activism
- Strong theme: geoengineering cannot substitute for drastic CO₂ reduction; at best it buys time.
- Debate over whether temporary cooling is valuable (to bridge generational and technological transitions) or just postpones inevitable crises.
- Skepticism that global economic restructuring will occur before major catastrophes in rich countries.
- Side discussion on nuclear vs renewables, China’s trajectory, and the limited effectiveness of current activism and offsets (e.g., tree planting).
Miscellaneous
- Brief curiosity about underwater volcano climate impacts (left unanswered/unclear).
- Thread includes humor framing volcanoes as “exhaust ports/pipes” and sarcastic “news at 11” reactions.