Future Ford's May Detect Speeding and Report You to the Cops
Accuracy and Feasibility of Speed Detection
- Many commenters say current in-car speed limit systems (maps + sign recognition) are often wrong: mis-labeled limits, school zones “when flashing,” truck-only limits, time-based signs, GPS lane confusion, even misreading gas prices as limits.
- Concern that any enforcement based on this data would generate significant false positives.
- Some argue it’s just a patent-grab; actual deployment is unlikely because customers would hate it.
Safety, Speeding, and “Traffic Violence”
- Strong debate over calling dangerous driving “traffic violence.”
- One side: speeding in cities greatly increases pedestrian death risk and is morally akin to other reckless acts causing foreseeable harm.
- Other side: “violence” implies intent; speeding is better framed as negligence/irresponsibility, and speeding is only one contributor to crashes.
- Discussion that US roads are exceptionally dangerous, with poor driver discipline compared to parts of Europe.
Privacy, Surveillance, and Police-State Concerns
- Some see car-based auto-reporting as a step toward a “police state” or dystopian panopticon, especially when combined with other automated monitoring.
- Others counter that driving on public roads is not a right, has little privacy expectation, and heavy enforcement is justified by high death tolls.
- Slippery-slope arguments vs. claims that there is “high friction” between traffic cameras and full totalitarianism.
Automated Enforcement: Pros and Cons
- Pro: consistent enforcement without armed police; could reduce crashes where speeding and red-light running are rampant.
- Con: systems can be abused for revenue (e.g., shortened yellow lights), miscalibrated, or tilted against people who can’t fight tickets.
- Some prefer peer-reporting (dashcam-style) over mandatory self-reporting; others find even peer panopticon disturbing.
Legal and Evidentiary Issues
- Questions about chain of custody and evidentiary validity: why should police trust machine-generated reports more than a citizen’s texted photo?
- Concerns about “kangaroo court”–like processes in automated ticket systems and tickets going to owners rather than actual drivers.
- Unclear how Ford’s “cars tattling on each other” would fit existing legal frameworks.
Alternatives and Systemic Fixes
- Suggestions: speed limiters in cars, speed bumps/road design changes, better lane discipline, harsher penalties (impound, jail, DUI-style).
- Some argue engineering and infrastructure changes are more effective than endless enforcement.