Behind the scenes of Bun Install
Developer Experiences and Compatibility
- Several commenters enjoy Bun’s built‑in server, SQLite, speed, and “one binary” simplicity; some use it for all new scripts and small servers.
- Others repeatedly hit incompatibilities and reverted to Node: past issues with
crypto, Playwright/Crawlee, Storybook, streams closing early, Docker hangs, SQLite bugs, and memory leaks. - A recurring strategy is using Bun only as package manager and/or test runner, while keeping Node as the runtime.
- There’s mention that Playwright and some HTTP client incompatibilities have been or are being fixed, but “rough edges” remain a deterrent for production use.
Adoption, Ecosystem, and Governance
- Data shared from GitHub shows new repos overwhelmingly using npm and pnpm over Bun, raising questions about slow adoption.
- Many see Node as mature, community‑driven, and battle‑tested, whereas Bun and Deno are perceived as VC‑funded, less “democratic,” with potential lock‑in risk.
- Some argue Bun doesn’t yet offer a 10x or clear 2x advantage for real projects; incremental gains may be absorbed as Node copies good ideas.
- Others counter that even if Bun just forces Node to improve, it has “succeeded.”
Performance, Benchmarks, and Install Speed
- Bun install is praised as dramatically faster; some share local benchmarks where Bun, npm, pnpm, and Deno end up closer than marketing implies.
- Skepticism arises around Bun’s blog benchmarks: unclear cache clearing, missing “npm (cached)” entry, and interpretation of syscall overhead numbers.
- There’s debate whether install speed matters: some say installs are rare and not a bottleneck; others stress CI/CD and human focus loss from 20–60 second waits.
Design Choices: IO, Syscalls, and Tarballs
- Discussion of Bun avoiding libuv, using Zig with direct syscalls, and optimizing for fewer context switches; some note Node could in theory do the same in C/C++.
- gzip footer and tarball handling: Bun buffers the whole tarball, reads the uncompressed size from the gzip trailer, and pre‑allocates output to avoid repeated reallocations; tradeoffs vs streaming are debated.
- Questions raised about equivalence of Linux hardlinks vs macOS
clonefileand implications for shared files.
Comparisons with Other Runtimes and Package Managers
- Deno’s Node compatibility is said to have improved significantly; its URL‑based dependency model makes apples‑to‑apples benchmarks tricky.
- One commenter posts numbers: on a React app, Bun and Deno installs (with lockfiles) are in the same ballpark as npm; first‑time runs differ more.
- Broader ecosystem talk: Python’s
uv, Ruby’srvand Bundler, PHP’s Composer and Mago, and Nix‑based workflows are cited as analogues.
Zig, Stability, and Safety
- Some worry about Bun’s crash‑heavy issue tracker and Zig’s pre‑1.0 status; others note Node itself relies on unsafe C/C++ and that maturity/testing matter more than language.
- Debate around whether Zig’s ecosystem is “mature”: strong C interop vs relatively few pure‑Zig libraries.
Reception of the Article
- The article is widely praised as clear, engaging technical writing tying low‑level concepts (syscalls, locality, compression, filesystems) to developer tooling.
- A few nitpick factual claims about historical hardware performance and suspect some LLM‑like rhetoric, but overall the technical explanations are considered strong.