The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund
Funding announcement lacks specifics
- Several commenters note the announcement contains almost no concrete funding details: no amounts, criteria, timelines, or processes.
- One participant involved with the effort says this announcement is about “finding money” and that how/what/who to fund is still being worked out in parallel.
- Others point out the list of large corporate sponsors on the foundation’s main page and implicitly connect that to expectations around transparency.
Governance, structure, and transparency concerns
- Strong criticism that the Rust Foundation is a 501(c)(6) (trade association) rather than a 501(c)(3) (charity).
- Some argue the foundation would better serve the community as a 501(c)(3) with clearer, public accounting of income and expenses.
- Skeptics question the need for a “new fund” at all, suggesting existing money should already be directed toward maintainers.
- There is suspicion this may be a “shell game” or “sleight of hand” with existing funds, and that announcing a new fund without structural or transparency changes “bodes poorly.”
Rust vs. Zig and “language war” dynamics
- A large part of the thread veers into Rust vs. Zig dynamics and why Rust gets more backlash.
- One view: Rust came first and became mainstream; exposure fatigue plus some Rust skeptics coalesced around Zig and promote it by attacking Rust.
- Several comments describe early Rust evangelism (2010s) as mostly grassroots, technical, and respectful, in contrast to today’s more combative “language wars.”
- Some feel Zig leadership leans into adversarial, high-engagement “Rust vs. Zig” discourse, while Rust leadership is generally more restrained; others counter that parts of Rust’s core leadership historically behaved in a hostile or “supremacist” way toward non–memory-safe languages.
- There are conflicting characterizations of which side’s leadership is more toxic; participants dispute each other’s recollections.
Culture, politics, and identity around Rust
- One thread argues that some of the anti-Rust sentiment comes from “anti-woke” programmers who object to Rust’s inclusive culture and prominent LGBTQ presence.
- Another long comment ties resistance to Rust to long-standing C/Unix “purity” and control ideals: Rust’s safety model and permissive licensing challenge those identities, whereas Zig is seen as fixing C’s rough edges while still “trusting the programmer.”
- Others question how widespread these political/cultural dynamics really are, but agree this thread in particular is unusually heated.