NIST was 5 μs off UTC after last week's power cut

Trust in NIST, Scope of the Incident, and Redundancy

  • Several commenters argue NIST’s transparency and handling of the outage increase trust rather than reduce it.
  • Others note the headline “NIST was off UTC” is misleading: only the Boulder servers were affected; other NIST sites stayed correct.
  • Properly designed systems should not depend on a single time source; using ≥4 independent NTP sources plus GPS is repeatedly recommended.

How Bad Is 5 µs?

  • Multiple people stress that 5 microseconds is negligible for Internet NTP users, where network jitter is typically ~1 ms.
  • Concern during the outage was the unknown state immediately after power restoration: bad time could cause large step changes if clients trusted it, so “no time” is safer than “unknown time.”
  • Once the offset is known and bounded, a small, decaying 5 µs error is considered operationally harmless for almost all users.

Time Sources and Architectures

  • High-precision users typically rely on:
    • GPS / GNSS with local oscillators (OCXO, rubidium, cesium, hydrogen masers) for holdover.
    • Precision Time Protocol (PTP) and variants like White Rabbit over dedicated networks or dark fiber.
    • NIST’s “Time Over Fiber” service for ultra-precise, GPS-independent distribution.
  • NTP over the public Internet is seen as a coarse layer; serious applications use local stratum-1 servers and hardware references.

NTP Pool and Security Concerns

  • Some warn that NTP pool servers can be used as IPv6 reconnaissance “honeypots” and that you don’t control which servers you hit.
  • Others report poor reliability from pool.ntp.org in large deployments and prefer major vendors’ time services (Google/Microsoft/Apple).

Who Actually Needs Micro/Nanosecond Accuracy?

  • Cited use cases include: high-frequency and low-latency trading, 4G/5G telecom, radio/particle physics experiments, spacecraft state vectors, GPS itself, distributed radio telescopes, lightning detection, robotics sensor fusion, audio/video and simulcast radio synchronization, and globally distributed databases (e.g., Spanner-like systems).

Synchronization Techniques and Software

  • Discussion highlights GPSDOs, rubidium/CSAC references, PTP/White Rabbit, and careful timestamping pipelines.
  • chrony is praised as more robust than many OS-default NTP clients, and some environments disable continuous NTP to avoid clock jumps when PTP is also disciplining the clock.

Meta: Titles and Impact

  • Several commenters describe the phrase “microseconds from disaster” as clickbait, given the tiny offset and extensive redundancy.
  • Nonetheless, a few note that even small timing anomalies can have financial or analytical implications at the margins.