Can Ozempic Cure Addiction?
Paywalls, Archives, and “Piracy”
- Early discussion centers on linking an archive.is copy of the paywalled article.
- Some see this as piracy and an abuse of archiving tools; others argue archive.is is explicitly used to bypass paywalls, often exploiting sites that expose full content to crawlers.
- Several people cite HN’s own FAQ allowing workarounds for paywalls.
- Moral views range from “piracy is fine” or morally neutral, to conditional support (“I won’t give big media my data/money while they track me and show ads”).
Anecdotal Effects on Addiction and Eating
- Multiple users report GLP‑1 drugs (Ozempic, Mounjaro, Wegovy, tirzepatide, retatrutide) dramatically reducing alcohol cravings: daily drinkers becoming occasional, or finding alcohol “uninteresting” or even aversive.
- Some describe similar effects on smoking; quitting felt noticeably easier with fewer and weaker cravings.
- Others report reduced “food noise” and intense emotional pull of specific foods, describing a normalization of their relationship to food.
- Not everyone sees addiction benefits: some still crave sweets or eat junk, just in smaller amounts; one user notes no weight loss because they simply eat high-calorie sweets to fullness.
Cure vs Suppression and Habit Change
- One side stresses these drugs offer only temporary suppression: when doses stop or wear off, many revert to old habits.
- Others reply that “temporary” can still be powerful—a pause that makes building new habits or quitting substances far easier.
- Debate over whether GLP‑1s are root-cause treatment (modulating propensity to overeat/addict) versus mere crutch, and whether they should complement lifestyle programs instead of replace them.
Mechanism, Placebo, and Performance
- Some speculate they mainly disrupt trigger/conditioning loops; others counter this is speculative and emphasize direct neural action (GLP‑1 receptors in reward centers).
- There’s pushback against over-attributing to placebo, with people describing a “light switch” change in cravings.
- Several users worry or wonder about blunting of all desire; others on long-term GLP‑1s report normal work obsessions and interests.
- A few see strong secondary “performance” benefits via weight loss and better sleep, enabling them to clear long-standing life backlogs.
Evidence, Risks, and Misuse
- An RCT on semaglutide for alcohol use disorder is debated: some see short-term, low-dose lab reductions in drinking as impressive; others note no real-world consumption change and dropouts, calling it disappointing versus hype.
- Reported downsides include GI issues, insomnia, rapid muscle loss (if not managed with exercise/protein), gallbladder problems with fast weight loss, and risk of under-eating without guidance.
- Concerns about widespread off-label, “crash diet” and resale use; one user notes people buying a few doses for cosmetic pre-vacation loss.
- Long-term cancer risk (especially thyroid) is mentioned as a worry, but balanced by cited reductions in cardiovascular events and mortality in high-risk groups.
Alternatives and Broader Context
- One commenter promotes non-pharmaceutical approaches (intermittent fasting, breathwork, copper-water, oil pulling) as equally effective without side effects, though this is not widely echoed.
- Harm-reduction discussion around switching from cigarettes to vaping or nicotine pouches.
- Some call for banning alcohol advertising given how visual cues activate addicted brains.
- A link notes potential cheaper GLP‑1 generics from India, raising access and cost questions.