Investigation uncovers two sophisticated telecom surveillance campaigns
Insider abuse and telco security controls
- Several anecdotes describe telco employees abusing internal access to track ex-partners, sometimes without leaving obvious logs (e.g., packet captures, access to raw telemetry).
- Others, including people claiming telco experience, strongly dispute how easy this is: they say access to enriched location data is tightly restricted, CRM data is segregated, and lawful intercept systems are on separate, hidden paths.
- There is disagreement on how many employees at large operators can see both location and customer data; some say “almost none,” others say “dozens” at big carriers.
Law enforcement and accountability
- Multiple commenters describe police largely ignoring stalking and tech-enabled harassment, even when evidence is provided, across the US, Australia, UK, and Europe.
- Others insist that in their jurisdictions such allegations would be investigated and could lead to charges, but this is met with skepticism and counterexamples.
- Telco governance and privacy offices are portrayed by some as serious and responsive, by others as theater, with audits allegedly being fudged.
Technical vectors: SS7, 4G/5G, lawful intercept
- SS7 is repeatedly cited as a long-known, unfixed weak point enabling silent location tracking and protocol downgrade attacks, even for 5G users.
- Some note that “ghost” or shell operators can abuse interconnect signaling outside normal legal processes.
- Lawful intercept and emergency services paths are described as intentionally opaque, sometimes even from normal telco monitoring tools.
Global data markets and state abuse
- Russia is mentioned as an example where telco and travel data reportedly leak onto black markets and have been used by journalists and opposition figures; some initially claim these DBs are fake, others counter with documented uses.
- Comments suggest similar surveillance and leakage in the UK, Israel, and Australia, and that “everyone does it, some just got caught.”
Israel, Gaza, and geopolitics
- The Israeli surveillance/export industry is linked in discussion to broader military and intelligence practices.
- Gaza and neighboring regions are described by several as a “testing ground” or “laboratory” for advanced tracking and targeting technologies, with concern they will be deployed more broadly.
Privacy attitudes and coping strategies
- Many argue most people no longer care about being tracked, citing mass use of big tech apps with location access.
- Suggested mitigations range from disabling background location, to keeping SIMs in dumb phones at home, to using data-only SIMs and encrypted apps, to leaving phones behind entirely.
- Others consider privacy effectively dead and foresee pervasive surveillance enabling “tailor-made hells” and black markets for “private comms” tech.