Sequoyah’s syllabary created a written language for the Cherokee
Cherokee Syllabary & Historical Context
- Wikipedia links on the Cherokee syllabary are shared; commenters note that by 1825 most Cherokees could reportedly read/write it.
- Comparisons are made to rapid literacy in 19th‑century Hawaiʻi after missionaries introduced an alphabet.
- There is disagreement over whether Sequoyah was truly monolingual Cherokee:
- One side repeats the “monolingual” narrative.
- Others argue this is doubtful, citing his European parentage, military service, trade contacts, and the clear visual borrowing from Latin, Greek, Hebrew, and Cyrillic letterforms.
- The story that contemporaries saw his writing as “magic” is tied to unfamiliarity with writing and led to a witchcraft trial, though records are lacking.
Writing Systems, Phonetics, and English Orthography
- Commenters contrast a purpose-built syllabary’s phonetic simplicity with English’s irregular spelling.
- Discussion covers: loss of older English letters (þ, ð, long s, yogh), printing-press and typewriter influence, and how these technologies nudged but did not fully determine orthographic simplification.
- Several posts differentiate phonetic vs. phonemic writing and argue that fully phonetic transcription (e.g., raw IPA) would be impractical for everyday writing.
Origins of Alphabets and Scripts
- A long subthread debates whether nearly all alphabets derive from Proto‑Sinaitic / Canaanite scripts.
- Counterexamples raised: Hangul, Zhuyin, Japanese kana, Phags‑pa, Brahmic scripts.
- Others respond that:
- Syllabaries aren’t alphabets.
- Brahmic scripts are probably derived from Aramaic (and thus Proto‑Sinaitic), though a minority of scholars argue for an indigenous origin.
- There is detailed back‑and‑forth on abjad vs true alphabet, and on how well Hebrew or Arabic map sounds to letters, with no consensus.
Efficiency and Redundancy in Languages
- Someone wonders about the “most compact and efficient” language.
- Replies bring in Shannon’s notion of redundancy and relate it to crossword puzzles and literary examples, and mention hyper-compact conlang Ithkuil.
- Others note that “efficiency” depends on alphabet size, phoneme inventory, morphology, and shared vocabulary.
Article Framing and Missing Glyphs
- Several criticize the Smithsonian piece for omitting actual Cherokee glyph examples and for a slightly sensational original title.
- HN’s title is updated to better match the article; posters praise Wikipedia and Omniglot for providing the concrete tables, samples, and broader script context.