Microsoft again bothers Chrome users with Bing popup ads in Windows

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Microsoft is pushing new Bing and Edge promotions directly inside Windows when users run Chrome, triggering concerns that the OS is effectively hijacking a competitor’s product space with ads. Commenters contrast this with Google’s long‑standing Chrome nags on its own sites, arguing that OS‑level interference is a more serious abuse of market power and a clear dark pattern. Many call for regulatory action, note that most non‑technical users simply accept whatever the system suggests, and say these tactics are driving power users toward Linux, macOS, or paid search alternatives.

Microsoft’s Bing Popups and OS-Level Ads

  • Many see Windows injecting Bing/Edge prompts into Chrome as crossing a “red line”: the OS tampering with a competitor’s product and user choices.
  • Others argue it mirrors how big players behave generally, but several note this is worse than website-level prompts because it’s at the operating-system layer and harder to avoid.
  • Some say this behavior makes them less likely to ever try Bing/Edge or even Windows again.

Comparisons to Google, Apple, and “Fair Game”

  • Multiple comments note Google’s long history of nagging users to install Chrome on Google sites, bundling Chrome with installers, and “Sign in with Google” prompts.
  • Some think Microsoft is just applying Google’s playbook; others insist there’s a key difference between advertising on your own properties and injecting into a rival’s app.
  • Apple is also cited for Safari nags on iOS.

Nagging, Dark Patterns, and Effectiveness

  • Nagging (repeated popups, modals, and “security” prompts) is described as a common dark pattern across OSes, TVs, and the web.
  • Several argue it’s effective: conversion gains outweigh the loss of annoyed power users; most “normies” just click through and accept defaults.
  • Some suggest such patterns should be illegal; others propose taxes or fines, but there’s disagreement on whether taxation would curb abuse.

Alternatives: Linux, macOS, and Cost

  • A set of participants report long-term success migrating non-technical family members to Linux desktops, with fewer support issues than Windows.
  • Others recount painful Linux experiences (driver issues, Nvidia/Realtek, Wayland/Xorg friction) and conclude it’s still not “desktop ready” for many.
  • Preinstallation and hardware support are seen as key barriers to Linux adoption; cost is cited as a barrier for macOS.

Browser Compatibility and Ecosystem Lock-In

  • Some report that enterprise sites, Microsoft SSO flows, or DRM-heavy services work poorly or not at all on Firefox, pushing them to Chrome/Edge.
  • Others say they rarely hit Firefox-incompatible sites and suspect misconfiguration, add-ons, or platform-specific quirks.
  • This contributes to a sense that both Microsoft and Google leverage ecosystem control to steer users.

AI/Copilot and Alignment Choices

  • Bing’s GPT-4-based chat is described as “rude” or overly restrictive, cutting off coding help and pushing users to “learn it themselves.”
  • Speculation includes: alignment to avoid misuse (e.g., homework cheating) and funneling serious coding tasks into paid Copilot.