Majority of sites and apps use dark patterns in the marketing of subscriptions

Pervasiveness and Normalization

  • Many commenters are unsurprised: dark patterns feel ubiquitous in subscription marketing and web UX generally.
  • Some argue this normalization is itself disturbing; “everyone does it” attitudes are seen as enabling bad actors.
  • Others note a non-trivial minority of services in the report showed no dark patterns and should be rewarded with business.

Ethics, Responsibility, and Systemic Incentives

  • Strong moral language is used: practices are compared to lying, theft, and coercion.
  • Debate whether “companies” are the enemy vs. the socioeconomic system that rewards deceptive behavior.
  • Individual employees are seen as rationalizing participation (“just doing my job,” “pressure to grow revenue”).

Definitions and Types of Dark Patterns

  • OECD categories cited: forced action, interface interference, nagging, obstruction, sneaking, social proof, urgency.
  • Disagreement on whether social proof and scarcity are inherently “dark” vs. normal marketing that only becomes dark when deceptive or faked.
  • Examples: multi-step cancellation flows, upsell interstitials, fake urgency counters, biased testimonials.

Regional Pricing and Hidden Fees

  • Extensive comparison of U.S. practices (prices without tax, tipping, junk fees, “service charges”) vs. Europe/Australia where tax-inclusive pricing is common.
  • Some Europeans describe U.S. retail and restaurant pricing as feeling like systemic fraud; others say locals are simply used to not knowing the final price.
  • Airlines, ISPs, and landlords in multiple regions are cited for add-on fees and obscured costs.

User Coping Strategies

  • Tactics include:
    • Using Apple/Google app stores for centralized subscription control.
    • Virtual or single-merchant cards and low-balance accounts to limit exposure.
    • Avoiding any service not cancellable via trusted intermediaries.
    • Meticulous monitoring of credit card statements and banking tools.

Regulation and Legal Ideas

  • Calls for laws like “two-click unsubscribe” and “cancellation must be as easy as signup.”
  • Mention of existing rules in California and EU, but enforcement is seen as weak and penalties too low.
  • Proposals include mandatory standardized subscription labels (price, auto-renewal, cancellation method/fees) and significant statutory damages per improper charge.

Subscriptions: Value vs. Abuse

  • Many express deep distrust of subscriptions due to forgotten charges, accidental billing, and hard-to-cancel flows.
  • Others defend subscriptions as appropriate for ongoing services (email, SaaS, MMOs, streaming), arguing they beat ads and microtransactions.
  • Some cite “ethical” models (e.g., non-auto-renewing, easy cancellation, or “keep last version” software) but note these may lose revenue to more aggressive competitors.

Direct Mail and Offline Dark Patterns

  • Physical junk mail uses similar tricks: urgent-looking envelopes, misleading branding (e.g., mortgage or government lookalikes), tiny disclaimers.
  • Environmental and psychological costs of this constant low-level deception are highlighted.