For the Colonel, It Was Finger-Lickin’ Bad (1976)
Founder vs Corporate: Sanders and KFC
- Many see Sanders as caring about quality, while corporate prioritized cost-cutting and brand exploitation after acquisition.
- The NYT kitchen outburst is framed less as bullying workers and more as a staged media tactic to pressure corporate.
- Commenters generalize: when you sell to a large company or PE, expect your creation to be diluted or “enshittified.”
Loss of Control After Selling or Going Public
- Several anecdotes of founders and small business owners who sold but then hated what the buyer did.
- Some sympathy, but others note: if you cash out, you trade control for money.
- Discussion of control in public companies: confusion and correction around majority vs largest shareholder and CEO/Chair split; conclusion is that governance norms vary and control can become diffuse.
Original Recipe, Seasoning, and MSG
- Links/shared recipes for the “original” herbs and spices and commercial seasonings.
- MSG is often the top ingredient in KFC-style blends; some are surprised it dominates a supposedly herb-based mix.
- Debate over MSG safety: some still distrust it; others call that outdated and note natural glutamates (e.g., cheese, tomatoes).
- Criticism of vague labels like “other natural spices” for allergy and transparency reasons.
Product Changes and Perceived Decline in Quality
- Multiple people recall KFC being far better in the 60s–80s, with specific changes: different flour, oil, shorter marinating, instant gravy.
- Complaints about excessive salt, soggy chicken, and removal of items like BBQ sandwiches, grilled chicken, classic sides, and vegetables.
- Some extend this to other chains (Popeyes, Pizza Hut, etc.) as examples of long-term cost-driven decline.
International vs US Fast Food
- Strong consensus that US branches of major chains are worse than overseas versions in taste, quality, and sometimes service.
- Explanations offered: different market expectations, regulations, and price positioning; abroad, US fast food can be quasi-premium and must compete with higher food standards.
Culture, Homelessness, and Social Context
- A remark from the original article about not wanting to see people sleeping in the streets triggers comparisons between India, US West Coast cities, and Kentucky.
- Debate over causes of visible homelessness, local government responses (including “rounding up” people), and the limits of public power over large corporations.
Alternatives and Nostalgia
- Many personal memories of KFC as a childhood treat contrasted with current avoidance.
- Several advocate making fried chicken at home (e.g., buttermilk methods) as both tastier and more controllable than any modern KFC.