Linus Torvalds muses about maintainer gray hairs and the next 'King of Linux'
Rust in the Linux kernel
- Many welcome Torvalds’ continued openness to Rust, seeing it as a legitimate systems-language addition, not just a fad.
- Others stress practical issues: kernel maintainers would have to either freeze subsystems or learn Rust; expanding required languages has real cost.
- Some argue it’s reasonable to mandate a small fixed set of languages (e.g., C + Rust) but not an open-ended list.
- A proposed compromise is to define stable, well-documented C APIs that Rust code can depend on; resistance partly comes from subsystem maintainers who don’t want to lock down or document interfaces.
Forking vs iterating on Linux
- One side sees “go write your own Rust kernel” as unproductive and “religious”; building on Linux is more realistic.
- Another side says pushing Rust into Linux is burning out contributors and that a fresh Rust-based, Linux-compatible kernel may be the only sustainable outlet.
- There’s disagreement over whether a “Linux-compatible kernel” is meaningful, given Linux’s internal instability but stable userspace ABI; examples like WSL1 and some BSD efforts are cited as partial precedents.
Technical vs “religious” debates in open source
- Some advocate ignoring ideological or “religious” arguments to focus on technical work.
- Others counter that non-engagement in democratic communities lets one faction take over, citing Python community governance struggles as an example.
- Several note that in large OSS projects, politics, credibility, and process knowledge often matter as much as raw technical merit.
Conference locations, inclusion, and ideology
- Heated debate over Python conferences in countries with harsh anti-LGBTQ laws (e.g., Tanzania).
- One camp emphasizes safety and inclusion of queer contributors; another warns that refusing events in much of Africa/Asia/Eastern Europe effectively excludes large regions from Python’s ecosystem.
- Tension between “stick to tech” and the view that basic human rights directly affect who can safely participate.
Linus’s leadership style and culture
- Some praise Torvalds’ technical rigor and directness; others criticize his past rants as abusive, even if often aimed at senior people.
- Cultural context matters: some regions value blunt feedback and “thick skin,” others see similar behavior as toxic.
- There’s recognition that he has tried to moderate his style over time.
Future of Linux and maintainership
- Speculation about a post-Torvalds era ranges from fears of “Yugoslavia after Tito”–style fragmentation to uncertainty about successors.
- One comment notes that becoming a respected maintainer is also a long-term potential attack vector for compromising the ecosystem.