Box3D, an open source 3D physics engine
Ecosystem and Comparisons
- Box3D is welcomed as a rare new open-source 3D physics engine, joining ODE, Bullet, Newton Dynamics, Jolt, PhysX, Havok, Rapier, and others.
- Several posters compare robustness and speed: PhysX is described as very robust and stable, with Havok slightly faster but with different accuracy trade-offs.
- Jolt is praised for web support and incremental snapshotting that helps deterministic netcode.
- Some are eager to compare Box3D directly with Jolt, given both have strong production pedigrees.
Box2D Legacy and Evolution
- Box2D is widely remembered as foundational for many 2D indie games, Flash-era titles, and RL benchmarks (e.g., classic Gym environments).
- Experiences are mixed: many found it pleasant and high quality; others felt it aged poorly for arcade-style games, large worlds, or soft/deformable bodies.
- The recent rewrite into C (Box2D 3.x / Box2C) is noted as a significant improvement, but still perceived by some as lacking soft-body tooling and easy “escape hatches” for non-realistic platformer physics.
Determinism and Networking
- Box3D’s documentation explicitly states it is designed to be deterministic across platforms and thread counts, and includes a recording/replay mechanism.
- This is highlighted as a major advantage for rollback netcode and networked physics, contrasting with difficulties using Unity/PhysX deterministically.
- Some argue that for tightly scoped physics-centric games (e.g., billiards), writing a custom physics simulation may still be preferable.
Use Cases, Web, and Bindings
- Box3D’s C API and small binary size are seen as ideal for ergonomic language bindings (e.g., Odin) and for compiling to WebAssembly.
- The thread catalogs multiple JS/WASM physics engines (ammo.js, cannon.js, oimo.js, rapier.js, jolt.js, physx/havok wasm) and related wrappers.
Industry Context and Valve
- Box3D originated from a fork of a Valve-related physics engine, and similar optimizations are said to appear in internal engines used in upcoming Valve titles.
- S&box reportedly switched from Source 2 physics to Box3D, reinforcing its perceived production readiness.
- Thread contains playful speculation about future Valve games, treating the new engine as circumstantial evidence.
Licensing, Credit, and Fairness Debate
- A story about a blockbuster game using Box2D without initial credit triggers a long debate on open-source fairness.
- One side stresses that MIT-style licenses legally require only attribution, not payment; the other insists that large commercial beneficiaries have a moral obligation to support key dependencies financially.
- This leads to broader reflection on whether permissive licenses underserve maintainers, and mentions of dual-licensing and copyleft (e.g., AGPL) as alternatives.
General Sentiment and Caveats
- Overall sentiment toward Box3D is strongly positive: people praise prior work, code quality, and are excited to adopt it in engines, web games, and VR projects.
- At the same time, posters caution that rigid-body physics remains a difficult domain, with many open problems in collision handling and solver tuning, and that no single engine fits all gameplay needs.