Apple HomeView

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Apple’s new HomeView smart display — essentially a HomePod with a screen and Siri AI — is drawing mixed reactions, with many questioning its value versus simply repurposing an old iPad or using existing Google/Amazon smart hubs. Commenters focus on its locked‑down nature (no general App Store, Apple‑centric services, reliance on Siri), privacy and DMA-driven absence from the EU, and whether a fixed kitchen screen actually solves real problems beyond timers, music, photo frames, and basic home control. Some see strong potential as a multi‑user home hub and gift-friendly “landline of the future,” while others doubt Apple’s commitment to smart home software and predict it may be short‑lived or mainly a vehicle to deepen ecosystem lock‑in.

Product concept & perceived use cases

  • Seen as Apple’s late entry into “smart display” space (Echo Show, Nest Hub, Meta Portal), positioned as a kitchen / hallway “home hub”: timers, recipes, calendars, music, photos, FaceTime, smart‑home dashboard, intercom.
  • Some think this form factor is genuinely useful as a fixed, always‑on, multi‑user “family console” and landline replacement, esp. for grandparents and kids without phones.
  • Others say all use cases are already covered by phones/tablets, or by an old wall‑mounted iPad or Raspberry Pi + Home Assistant, and that the ad’s scenarios look contrived.

Apps, ecosystem, and limitations

  • Current limitation to Apple apps plus CarPlay‑style projected media apps is widely criticized; many want full App Store, YouTube, WhatsApp, Home Assistant, etc.
  • Several expect Apple to add a companion‑app / CarPlay‑like extension model later, not a full on‑device app store.
  • Multi‑user FaceID-like switching is seen as a key differentiator, and many ask why iPad/iPhone still lack similar multi‑user support at home.

Siri / AI quality

  • Very broad skepticism that “Siri AI” is good enough to anchor the product; people report slow, unreliable, or bizarre behavior even in latest betas.
  • Some note Siri now uses Gemini‑based models and is more conversational, but others say it’s still worse than ChatGPT/Claude and often fails or lags on simple tasks.

Privacy, surveillance, and Secure Exclaves

  • Strong “telescreen” / self‑surveillance concerns: always‑on mics and cameras in the kitchen, combined with Apple’s growing ads and services push.
  • Counterpoint: Apple’s on‑device “Secure Exclaves” for mic/camera processing are seen by some as a serious, technically sound privacy advance; others say it still requires trusting Apple and their silicon supply chain.
  • Debate over whether this meaningfully improves on TVs and other smart devices that already track users.

EU, DMA, and availability

  • Not launching in EU; attributed in the thread to Digital Markets Act rules that would force Apple to expose Siri‑level capabilities to competing assistants.
  • Some see this as Apple using the EU as a scapegoat; others think Apple simply won’t comply with “silly” interoperability requirements.

Smart home & HomeKit

  • Mixed views: some are excited about a more serious home‑automation push and Matter hub; others call HomeKit/Home app buggy, limited, and far behind Home Assistant or competing ecosystems.
  • Lack of integration with non‑HomeKit systems (e.g., Nest, existing security panels) is viewed as a major gap for “serious” smart homes.

Design, pricing, and outlook

  • Design evokes iMac G4; reactions range from “beautiful homage” to “goofy” and “soulless.”
  • $299 is seen by some as aggressive/“cheap for Apple,” by others as expensive versus old tablets or discontinued Nest Hubs.
  • Many predict it will still sell well inside the Apple ecosystem (especially as a gift), despite HN‑style cynicism.