BART to offer final rides on original equipment on April 20

Nostalgia and rider memories

  • Many recall the original BART era fondly: “family seating” living‑room nooks, wool seats, carpeted floors, and paper magnetic tickets with printed balances.
  • Some describe BART’s early years as “glory days” when it felt airline‑like, clean, and respected, with perks like free parking.
  • Others share childhood memories of tracks near their homes and youthful mischief, seeing BART as part of Bay Area identity.

Seating, cleanliness, and materials

  • Strong sentiment that carpet and fabric seats were comfortable and quieter but ultimately unhygienic and often disgusting (wet seats, MRSA reports).
  • Several contrast this with Japanese, London, and Austrian systems that still successfully use fabric, attributing the US problem to lax enforcement and social conditions rather than materials alone.
  • Vinyl and hard surfaces are seen as necessary compromises against vandalism, dirt, and bedbugs.

Track gauge, system design, and interoperability

  • Long debate over BART’s non‑standard broad gauge (“Indian gauge”).
  • Critics say it blocks track‑sharing with Caltrain/freight, forces multiple incompatible fleets (mainline BART, eBART DMUs, Oakland Airport Connector), and complicates maintenance and power systems.
  • Others argue gauge is overstated as a problem: BART doesn’t need mixed traffic, similar gauges are common worldwide, and interoperability would still be limited by platform heights, signaling, power, and crash standards.
  • Dual‑gauge track is mentioned as technically possible but probably not cost‑effective at this stage.

Rolling stock, regulations, and procurement

  • Discussion of US mainline crash (“buff strength”) rules and how recent changes allow lighter European‑style stock, though agencies have been slow to adopt.
  • Some emphasize that long, heavy US freight trains drove earlier strength requirements; others stress prevention technologies like Positive Train Control.
  • Caltrain’s new Stadler EMUs are cited as semi off‑the‑shelf but heavily customized and encumbered by “Buy America” rules that increased costs while adding limited domestic expertise.

Transit integration and governance

  • Multiple comments lament the fragmented Bay Area ecosystem (BART, Caltrain, Muni, ferries, dozens of agencies) and misaligned fares.
  • Some argue a unified authority could still fail to deliver integration, citing other US regions; others point to European‑style regional associations as better models.
  • Fare integration via Clipper reportedly met resistance from agencies worried about losing direct control of cash flow.

Caltrain, freight, and electrification

  • Caltrain’s corridor is freight‑owned; freight is expected to keep running post‑electrification, including double‑stack container traffic that complicates wire clearances.
  • Some view freight on the corridor as environmentally positive; others find it operationally and design‑wise constraining and wish for separate tracks.

Service quality, comfort, and noise

  • Mixed views on current BART: some describe 2010s stations and cars as creepy, dilapidated, and unsafe; others still see BART as one of the better US systems.
  • New trains are widely regarded as superior but criticized for odd oscillations causing motion sickness and for wet‑weather braking issues that force slowdowns and create wheel flats.
  • The signature high‑pitched tunnel noise divides opinion: iconic and recognizable for some, “deafening and unbearable” for others; earplugs are half‑seriously recommended.

Alternatives and urban form

  • Several recommend ferries as a slower but far more pleasant Oakland/SF option, complete with bar service and scenic bike‑and‑ferry routes via Sausalito or Tiburon.
  • Broader critique appears of US, especially West Coast, car‑centric sprawl and weak transit, with some seeing remote work and better land‑use planning as key levers to reduce dependence on cars.