Guy Callendar, the engineer who discovered human-caused global warming
Title, attribution, and history of the idea
- Several comments argue the article over-credits Callendar as “discoverer” of anthropogenic warming.
- Earlier work cited: 19th- and early-20th-century scientific papers and popular articles linking CO₂ and climate, plus 19th‑century theory of the greenhouse effect.
- Thread consensus: Callendar’s contribution was more about providing convincing quantitative evidence than originating the concept.
Evidence that recent CO₂ rise is human-caused
- CO₂ increased from ~280 ppm (preindustrial) to ~315 ppm (1958) to ~421 ppm today; about a 50% rise.
- One commenter computes that ~8.8 gigatons of CO₂ raise atmospheric concentration by 1 ppm; observed rises match human emissions, implying anthropogenic origin.
- Isotopic evidence (C‑12/C‑13/C‑14 ratios) is cited as matching fossil fuels, not volcanism or other natural sources.
- Note that much emitted carbon is absorbed by oceans and other sinks; only about half remains in the air.
Rates and magnitudes of change
- Strong emphasis that current rate of CO₂ increase is extremely high compared with past natural changes; graphs described as “vertical” over the last century.
- A dissenting voice claims Earth has warmed and cooled as fast or faster in the past but provides no concrete citation; others challenge this.
Impacts and thresholds
- Discussion of possible cognitive impairment around ~800 ppm CO₂, with indoor urban spaces suggested to already approach such levels.
- Mention that Jurassic CO₂ was much higher (~2100 ppm) and that at ~1200 ppm some cloud regimes may break down; commenters stress differences in timescale.
- Several note that even if final temperatures match past eras, compressing the change into centuries instead of millennia is likely disruptive.
Climate vs. weather and modeling
- Multiple comments push back on “we can’t predict weather, so we can’t predict climate” by distinguishing short‑term chaos from long‑term averages.
- Analogies used: casino odds vs. individual cards, seasons vs. daily weather, center-of-mass trajectory vs. tumbling motion.
- Claim that current models are, if anything, underpredicting observed warming and extremes.
Natural variability and past events
- CO₂ over the last 800k years fluctuated roughly 160–300 ppm; interglacials and glacial cycles discussed.
- Little Ice Age and other abrupt climate events are debated; proposed drivers include solar output, volcanism, land-use change, and disease‑driven depopulation, with timing and causality marked as uncertain.
- Role of silicate weathering as a very long‑term negative feedback (~10k years scale) is mentioned.
Politics, communication, and denial
- Comments argue that fossil-fuel interests funded disinformation campaigns after internal acceptance of the science.
- Some frame the public “debate” as primarily about cost allocation and lifestyle change, not about physical science.
- One skeptical thread accuses climate politics of alarmism and quasi-religious moralism; others respond that observed changes and basic physics are sufficient without ideological framing.
- Broad agreement that outright denial of human influence is concentrated among a vocal minority, often conflating natural variability with current trends.
Observed local changes
- Anecdotes: historically frozen lakes and heavy snow in the U.S. Northeast and Mid‑Atlantic vs. much milder recent winters.
- Mention of a recent deadly West African heatwave as an example of events expected to become more frequent, with implications for climate migration.