Covid-19 3rd leading cause of death among Canadians in 2022

Covid-19 ranked as the third leading cause of death in Canada in 2022, behind cancer and heart disease, with deaths concentrated among those aged 65 and older. Commenters debate how to interpret these figures, including whether they reflect deaths “with” versus “from” Covid, how they compare to U.S. and influenza mortality, and what they imply about the effectiveness of vaccines, masking, and public health policy. There is also contention over related topics such as euthanasia statistics, excess deaths, and the reliability of medical and governmental data.

COVID as Leading Cause of Death (Canada & US)

  • In Canada 2022, top causes: cancer, heart disease, COVID-19 (~19.7k), accidents, cerebrovascular disease.
  • “Other causes” is large but not a single category, so usually excluded from rankings.
  • Age pattern: ~91% of COVID deaths in 65+, with a big increase among 80+; deaths in <65 declined.
  • US context: in 2021 COVID was 3rd; provisional 2022 data show COVID 4th, down ~47% from 2021 but still substantial.

Mask Effectiveness and Mandates

  • One side argues empirical evidence for masks—especially widespread mandates against newer strains—is weak; some see masking as often “performative” due to poor fit/usage.
  • Others cite many peer‑reviewed studies (pre‑ and post‑COVID) showing masks, particularly N95/KN95, substantially reduce respiratory transmission; links to curated study lists and public health resources are provided.
  • Distinction is made between:
    • Physical efficacy of well‑fitted respirators for an individual, and
    • Population‑level impact of mask policies where adherence and behavior (e.g., unmasking to eat) dilute effects.
  • Some stress aerosol transmission dominates; surface/contact transmission appears minor. Ocular transmission is suggested as under‑studied.

Vaccines, Variants, and Immunity

  • Several commenters attribute lower deaths to vaccination and partial immunity from past infection, though exact durability estimates vary (months to ~1.5 years).
  • Others emphasize that newer variants might simply be less lethal, downplaying vaccine impact, and cite countries with lighter restrictions.
  • Personal anecdotes range from severe illness despite multiple boosters to quick recovery after reinfection.

“With vs From” COVID and Data Reliability

  • Some suspect overcounting: loose definitions (e.g., “clinically compatible illness,” contribution vs primary cause) and possible financial or bureaucratic incentives are raised.
  • Others counter with:
    • Cause‑of‑death tallies closely matching total deaths, implying no large double‑counting.
    • Links debunking claims of systematic inflation (mostly US‑focused but invoked by analogy).
  • No consensus is reached; several points remain labeled as unclear due to differing local experiences and definitions.

Euthanasia / MAID and Cause-of-Death Classification

  • MAID deaths (~13.2k) are compared numerically to COVID deaths.
  • Some argue MAID shouldn’t be a “cause of death” but rather the underlying disease should; others analogize it to suicide (method vs underlying condition like depression).
  • Clarification that death certificates typically list immediate and underlying causes; in MAID for terminal illness, the disease is often recorded as the cause.

Healthcare Systems and Medical Error

  • Noted discrepancy: “complications of medical/surgical care” appear minor in Canadian stats, whereas some US analyses estimate medical error as a major cause of preventable death.
  • Explanations offered: different coding practices, litigation pressures, and more aggressive high‑risk interventions in the US. No firm resolution.

Personal Behavior, Risk Perception, and Other Observations

  • Some use COVID’s high rank to justify ongoing mask use despite social pushback; others report that in their hospitals COVID feels low‑salience, with relaxed PPE use.
  • Wastewater and outbreak data from Toronto are cited as evidence of currently high transmission.
  • Discussion touches on immune “training,” reduced flu deaths during COVID, and the idea that COVID may be displacing influenza as a terminal event in the very old rather than wholly adding risk, though this is not rigorously settled in the thread.