Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account
Immediate reversal of Epic ban
- Apple terminated Epic’s new EU developer account, calling Epic a “threat” and “untrustworthy,” then reversed within days.
- Many see this as Apple “throwing a tantrum” and then backing down, looking petty and unstrategic.
- Others argue Apple simply demanded assurances Epic would follow the new rules and reinstated the account once it got them.
- Causality is disputed: some attribute the reversal mainly to Epic’s commitments; many think EU pressure was decisive.
Role of EU and the DMA
- Commenters credit the EU’s Digital Markets Act (DMA) with forcing Apple’s hand and preventing arbitrary retaliation.
- EU officials publicly signaled “high priority” scrutiny of Apple’s move; some see this as clear political pressure.
- There’s debate whether this was a formal enforcement step or just informal “letters and calls,” but most think Apple wanted to avoid billion‑euro fines.
- Some worry DMA is overreach; others frame it as standard utility‑style regulation for “gatekeepers.”
Apple’s strategy, leadership, and brand
- Repeated reversals (Epic ban, PWA removal/reinstatement) are seen as evidence Apple misjudged the DMA and is now “flailing.”
- Some defend Apple as rationally protecting its core cash cow (iPhone + Services) unlike Microsoft/Google, whose DMA exposure hits less central revenue.
- Several argue this behavior should worry investors because it looks emotional and short‑term, not carefully planned.
- A minority think this is deliberate theater to show shareholders Apple “fought hard” before complying.
Trust, contracts, and platform power
- One camp: Epic deliberately broke past contracts and ran PR campaigns; Apple reasonably doesn’t trust them and can refuse service.
- Other camp: Apple’s reliance on public criticism as a reason to ban is abusive for a dominant platform; proves why gatekeepers need regulation.
- Strong concern that a platform owner being able to kill a business or app store arbitrarily is intolerable once it’s a de facto utility.
App Store economics and DMA terms
- Many focus less on Epic and more on Apple’s 30% cut and new “core technology fee,” calling them rent‑seeking and anti‑competitive.
- Some note smaller developers now pay 15%, but others emphasize that most revenue still faces 30% and that per‑install fees violate DMA’s “free of charge” interoperability spirit (this remains legally unclear).
- Analogy frequently made: Apple’s controls and pricing resemble a monopoly or utility that should face split‑up or heavy regulation, even if smartphone OS market share is technically a duopoly.
Security, user choice, and fragmentation
- Pro‑DMA side: users should control devices they bought, pick app stores, and bypass Apple’s review and ad‑driven search; competition could yield better stores.
- Skeptical side: multiple stores and sideloading could recreate messy PC game ecosystems and fuel privacy‑invasive app stores (e.g., large ad or social platforms).
- Some argue Apple can still differentiate by staying the “safe, privacy‑first” store; others fear that once powerful third‑party stores exist, pressure on privacy will increase.
Regulation, politics, and models
- Many Europeans express satisfaction that elected regulators can constrain trillion‑dollar firms; some Americans wish for similar rules, others mistrust state power.
- There’s back‑and‑forth over whether Apple is a monopoly, duopoly member, or just a powerful “gatekeeper,” and whether OSes and app stores should be treated as utilities.
- Thread reflects broad agreement that unregulated platform control is dangerous, but disagreement on how far regulation should go and whether the DMA’s specific mechanisms are well‑designed.