What Boeing did to all the guys who remember how to build a plane
Boeing’s Decline and Management Culture
- Many tie the cultural break to the McDonnell Douglas merger and later CEOs from finance/GE-style backgrounds.
- Shift from “product/engineering first” to “spreadsheet/stock price first” is seen as core: outsourcing, offshoring, stock buybacks, headcount cuts, union‑busting.
- Senior engineers and machinists were characterized as overpaid “obstacles” and pushed out; management roles and generic “leadership” were prized over deep technical skill.
Institutional Knowledge, QA, and “Quality Inertia”
- Commenters stress how badly short‑term cost‑cutting undervalues tacit expertise and “tribal knowledge.”
- QA and safety functions were hollowed out or pushed onto line workers, while metrics were gamed to show fewer defects.
- Concept of “quality inertia”: decades of prior excellence mask rot for a long time; the system can run on old margins until failures cluster years later.
Regulation, Market Structure, and Shareholder Incentives
- FAA oversight is criticized as captured and delegated back to Boeing; some question what purpose it now serves.
- Duopoly with Airbus and huge demand means airlines “have to” buy Boeing, muting market punishment.
- Many argue the stock market structurally rewards short‑term extraction; executives cash out before consequences. Others reply that markets still allocate capital better than state planning, but acknowledge short‑termism.
- Suggestions range from stronger safety fines and executive clawbacks to antitrust breakups and “long‑term” exchanges.
Safety Perception and Actual Risk
- Some insist US airline flying is still very safe relative to driving and that multiple defense layers remain.
- Others argue the 737 MAX crashes and recent structural failures reset the “safety clock”; luck (e.g., empty seats at the blown‑out door) is doing too much work.
Whistleblower Death and Corporate Retaliation
- Strong agreement that whistleblowers faced retaliation, career destruction, and intense stress.
- On the recent whistleblower death, some see clear suicide driven by that pressure; others are suspicious given timing and incomplete public forensic detail. Both sides agree the case has a chilling effect.
Broader Parallels and Workforce Issues
- Repeated comparisons to tech, defense, healthcare, utilities, and other conglomerates hollowed out by financialization.
- Ageism and the purging of older, more expensive staff is seen as widespread (including in software).
- A minority argue diversity/DEI is to blame; most responses in the thread instead point to capitalism, incentives, and management ideology, not workforce demographics.